Sonny Liston ~ "Sonny Boy Could Not Care Less About The Public Perception"

[Bill Paxtom]

Charles 'Sonny' Liston

Sonny could not care less about how the public felt about him. Being the World Heavyweight Champion
did not mean much to the 'mob oriented' fighter.

As a matter of fact, being Champion brought too much attention to the often 'in a bad mood''
Charles Liston.

Charkes 'Sonny' Liston >
"I follow the money. If it's a good deal, that's all that matters to me. Trophies and Belts don't
buy me no new Cadillac."

"Being Champion means more to the Newspaper Writers and Sports people. They ain't me.
The Title is just a temporary thing. Nobody has it forever. Look at what it did to Joe Louis."

[AdamGB]

couldn't care less... As in could NOT care less...

If you could not care less, it means that you care so little that you can't possibly care any less... If it is possible to care less then you have to care somewhat (potentially a lot).

eg. "I could not care less about Bill Paxton's pointless posts"

[Bill Paxtom]

Adam G-Boy,

You follow 'all my threads'.

The Public Perception is that, you are ---------- a fancy boy.

[beenKOed]

Charles 'Sonny' Liston

Sonny could not care less about how the public felt about him. Being the World Heavyweight Champion
did not mean much to the 'mob oriented' fighter.

As a matter of fact, being Champion brought too much attention to the often 'in a bad mood''
Charles Liston.

Charkes 'Sonny' Liston >
"I follow the money. If it's a good deal, that's all that matters to me. Trophies and Belts don't
buy me no new Cadillac."

"Being Champion means more to the Newspaper Writers and Sports people. They ain't me.at 11:30
The Title is just a temporary thing. Nobody has it forever. Look at what it did to Joe Louis."

Could be, but I doubt it. He was definitely a loner, but probably cared about what the public thought of him.
He didn't have much schooling, if I remember correctly, so his standoffish, I don't give a shit attitude was probably a defense against people wanting to chat him up. I'm too big, mean, bad and scary to care what people think of me.
You have to be a real monster to not care what people think of you.
I remember reading that he had little white friend, a neighbor I think, that he would take along once in a while. That doesn't seem like a monster to me and children are a lot less judgmental than adults, a nice fit for Liston.

[Bill Paxtom]

Charles 'Sonny' Liston

"Sometimes I'm not too proud to be an American. I get treated like dirt. Yea, it's true
that I was no Choir Boy growing up. But everybody makes mistakes."

"The Championship has brought me a few good things. But, it also has brought some
bad baggage was well. Being Champion is not at all what's it's cracked up to be."

"To be honest, I'd rather be left alone."

[Master]

I read Sonny was very disappointed that there was not a big reception when he got back to his home town after he beat Floyd. He was champion of the world! It must have hurt him.

[Bill Paxtom]

Correct,

Soon after,

Sonny left Philadelphia for Denver.

But the booze intake {J & B Scotch} started to increase.

[Master]

Correct,

Soon after,

Sonny left Philadelphia for Denver.

But the booze intake {J & B Scotch} started to increase.

So he was disappointed and hurt and did care about public perception.

[AdamGB]

Adam G-Boy,

You follow 'all my threads'.

The Public Perception is that, you are ---------- a fancy boy.

You're speaking on behalf of the public now? I must have missed the bit where they voted you their representative.

I usually stay out of your innate threads, you have a habit of showing up in Ali threads like a fly on shit... It is usually in those threads (not your own rambling piss) where I put you in your place.

I hope I at least educated you on the correct usage of the complicated, three letter word 'not'...

[ryanman]

This is an instructive video -

[IamInuit]

Yeah well its not a which came first the chicken or the egg kind of question. I mean the title says it all and the public could not care less about his perception of them. He never won them over because he never tried to. Its kind of twisted in a way because boxing has always been full of savory characters and bad ass fighters but it was not ready for Liston. Wrong era. Had he came along in the eighties he would have been Mike Tyson.

I find it disrespectful for him to say

Look at what it did to Joe Louis

after all he was Joes drug runner and most likely introduced him to heroin.

[Bill Paxtom]

Charles 'Sonny' Liston

"The Press will write you off like a bad disease. First they build you up, and then they tear you down.
Look at what they did to Floyd {Patterson} after I beat him. Suddenly, he was a 'Bum', and not
worthy to walk on the face of the Earth."

"I take the Press and the Public with a grain of salt. They feed off you like a blood thirsty slug.
Then when their done, they drop off of you and fall to the ground. Then they worm their way
to the next live Bastard. That is the cycle with those Motherfuckers."

[Master]

So Sonny did care.

[Bill Paxtom]

September 20, 1963

Charles 'Sonny' Liston

"As far as I'm concerned, I'm done with boxing. The only big money fight out there is between
'INGO' and me. If Johansson can get his Tax Bill straightened out, we'll fight in either
Philadelphia or Sweden."

"People forget that I've been around for 12 Years. That's enough for this old Bear."

[Master]

Yet Sonny carried on for another 7 years. He can not be trusted with what he says.