The last golden age of the Heavyweights

[El Kabong]

Yeah?
Well, too bad because Boxing is entertainment sold to the public, so it's about 90% casual fans instead of true fans, and the casual fans want ACTION for their money! (Most of the time anyways; floyd's the only one's managed to make bore-fest after bore-fest actually pay off! It's inexplicable, but these casual fans somehow keep paying.)

True fans might appreciate skill over entertainment, but there's not enough true fans to make the sport economically viable on their support alone... especially considering that most "true" fans don't really support the sport at all because they're the worse culprits when it comes to seeking out free illegal livestreams of PPVs instead of showing the real support of the sport by actually paying for them!

Oh well, it's the promoters took it down that route by making every $#!t-show a PPV....

If you want "action for your money" go watch Butterbean or Kimbo Slice beat up some hobos!

[Bill Paxtom]

Early 1950's

Definitely a fun era to watch, especially with the Light Heavyweight's having
success against the bigger men.

Late 1950's

Loaded with talent. Unfortunately Floyd Patterson 'was protected' from the competition.

'Pathetic Era' Mid-1960's

Cassius Clay, the 'Head Clown' of a division which was a 'Circus Act'. The talent literally sucked.

[bradlee180]

If you want "action for your money" go watch Butterbean or Kimbo Slice beat up some hobos!

...so tell us:
When's the last time you paid for a Boxing PPV, El Kabong?
Do you pay every month for every PPV?

What about the rest of you "true" Boxing fans?

It's the millions of casual fans that pay for the shows and make the sport economically viable, it's not the hardcore Boxing fans at all, ahah hah!!

[bradlee180]

...Buncha f*<kin' stealers, ahah hah hah!!!

[ykdadamaja]

Casual fans love to see heart in the ring. Nothing delivers a guy giving it his all in the ring better than facing adversity. Gatti faced adversity, and delivered exciting fights when he tried his all to win despite the setbacks and adversity.

So, it isn't a brawl fans want to see. Fans want to see drama unfold and guys to give it their all.

For example, the first Bowe/Holyfield fight basically set that trilogy off for the better. They had to do it two more times. Bowe was tested and so was Holyfield. Both at the highest points of their careers.

People also wanted a Lewis/Vitali rematch moreso than they wanted a Lewis/Rahman rematch. Because both men were tested and went in with their all.

[smashup]

If you want "action for your money" go watch Butterbean or Kimbo Slice beat up some hobos!

...so tell us:
When's the last time you paid for a Boxing PPV, El Kabong?
Do you pay every month for every PPV?

What about the rest of you "true" Boxing fans?

It's the millions of casual fans that pay for the shows and make the sport economically viable, it's not the hardcore Boxing fans at all, ahah hah!!

The last ppv I paid full price for would have been a Lennox fight a long time ago

Lyle I'd bet a lot of money 80% of us here are purist hardcore fans who admire the sweet science (I certainly am) however lets look at the ppv figures from now and then in the Heavyweights then ask yourself how many Heavyweights the man in the street could name right now?

Fuck me in England he'd say Anthony Joshua not the reigning champion Wlad and the reason is that nobody watches Wladimir because he doesn't entertain which is what the heavyweights is all about.

Big fighters with KO power... this is why people (casual fans) tune in.

I said earlier that the Heavyweights died the night Lennox and Vitali finished, maybe Joshua can bring it back but he can't do it alone because apart from the hugely dubious Wilder who else will bring the casual fans back?

Fury to some extent but that's because of his mouth not his boxing.

I doubt we will ever see the Heavies as good as the era in the thread title again.

[erics44]

If you want "action for your money" go watch Butterbean or Kimbo Slice beat up some hobos!

...so tell us:
When's the last time you paid for a Boxing PPV, El Kabong?
Do you pay every month for every PPV?

What about the rest of you "true" Boxing fans?

It's the millions of casual fans that pay for the shows and make the sport economically viable, it's not the hardcore Boxing fans at all, ahah hah!!

The last ppv I paid full price for would have been a Lennox fight a long time ago

Lyle I'd bet a lot of money 80% of us here are purist hardcore fans who admire the sweet science (I certainly am) however lets look at the ppv figures from now and then in the Heavyweights then ask yourself how many Heavyweights the man in the street could name right now?

Fuck me in England he'd say Anthony Joshua not the reigning champion Wlad and the reason is that nobody watches Wladimir because he doesn't entertain which is what the heavyweights is all about.

Big fighters with KO power... this is why people (casual fans) tune in.

I said earlier that the Heavyweights died the night Lennox and Vitali finished, maybe Joshua can bring it back but he can't do it alone because apart from the hugely dubious Wilder who else will bring the casual fans back?

Fury to some extent but that's because of his mouth not his boxing.

I doubt we will ever see the Heavies as good as the era in the thread title again.

i agree with all of what you said apart from this last line

we will have quality HWs again and quality title fights, soon as wlad retires things will start to improve and title fights will start to become exciting again

i believe there is quality, and i believe they are better than wlad, just not in germany

but once the excitement comes back more quality will come through and one day we will have a decent HW division again

[El Kabong]

Wlad isn't popular? He isn't entertaining? People don't watch his fights? Oh I'm sorry he's fought in packed houses how many times? People can go on about "Oh Wlad's only famous in Germany, Ukraine, etc" but the guy has 0 trouble selling tickets and to his point Floyd Mayweather Jr ONLY fights in Las Vegas, how is that different? Wlad doesn't have to sell PPV's because he's got a solid deal with RTL or whoever...the guy ain't hurting for fans and he's not hurting for money.

You can "But, but, but" all you like but thems the facts jack.

[erics44]

Wlad isn't popular? He isn't entertaining? People don't watch his fights? Oh I'm sorry he's fought in packed houses how many times? People can go on about "Oh Wlad's only famous in Germany, Ukraine, etc" but the guy has 0 trouble selling tickets and to his point Floyd Mayweather Jr ONLY fights in Las Vegas, how is that different? Wlad doesn't have to sell PPV's because he's got a solid deal with RTL or whoever...the guy ain't hurting for fans and he's not hurting for money.

You can "But, but, but" all you like but thems the facts jack.

im not sure fought is the right word

p.s. the main difference between mayweather and wlad is mayweather punches his opponent more than he holds him

[El Kabong]

im not sure fought is the right word

p.s. the main difference between mayweather and wlad is mayweather punches his opponent more than he holds him

Still trolling are ya? Wladimir has 52 knockouts, an 80% KO rate, but "he doesn't punch"....fuck you you dumb fucking ginger peddle that bullshit somewhere else