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    Default Re: Floyd's competition vs Manny's competition

    Also, you can't have it both ways. Either Clottey is good and the Cotto win counts a lot or Clottey is bad and Cotto's win doesn't count for much. If he's good, it's impressive Manny shut him out. If he's bad, it shouldn't matter he was coming off a loss.

    To me, I think styles make fights. Manny was so much faster than Clottey that Clottey couldn't afford to come out of his shell. Against Cotto, speed differential wasn't there and Clottey could fight more of his fight. It's a shame he wouldn't come out of his shell though to give it a shot.

    Also, realize that when Manny faced Oscar, he was a -200 underdog. Most experts predicted Manny to lose that fight. Now when we look back Oscar seemed drained but at the time it was a risky fight to take. The risk factor at the time of the fight should probably be factored into how high it is ranked to an extent too.

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    Default Re: Floyd's competition vs Manny's competition

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Also, you can't have it both ways. Either Clottey is good and the Cotto win counts a lot or Clottey is bad and Cotto's win doesn't count for much. If he's good, it's impressive Manny shut him out. If he's bad, it shouldn't matter he was coming off a loss.

    To me, I think styles make fights. Manny was so much faster than Clottey that Clottey couldn't afford to come out of his shell. Against Cotto, speed differential wasn't there and Clottey could fight more of his fight. It's a shame he wouldn't come out of his shell though to give it a shot.

    Also, realize that when Manny faced Oscar, he was a -200 underdog. Most experts predicted Manny to lose that fight. Now when we look back Oscar seemed drained but at the time it was a risky fight to take. The risk factor at the time of the fight should probably be factored into how high it is ranked to an extent too.
    I think Clottey is a hell of a fighter and I was impressed with his win, but the fact remained he was coming off of a loss.

    Cotto is great but when he looked mediocre vs Clottey, a lot of people started questioning whether or not he was washed up.

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    Default Re: Floyd's competition vs Manny's competition

    You forget he came from lightweight and knocked out the champ.
    DLH who volunteered to fight at welterweight so he was to blame and the fool. Pac Man wiped him out.
    Ricky Hatton may have had a bad camp but Manny wiped him out at his weight.
    Cotto was great win and performance.
    Clottely beaten easily.
    Marg was his most impressive performance against a much bigger man.
    Then it started to go down in performance against Shane Mosley, JMM, Tim Bradley, Brandon Rios and probably Chris Algeri.
    To be fair I do not argue who fought the better opposition as I do not care. What I do care is that they never fought one another 2009ish when Manny was awesome and Floyd used the excuse that he must be on drugs. Both of them are prats.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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