Who is the most talented boxer to never achieve anything and fade away into obscurity

[SlimTrae]

I'm just now learning about Charlie Burley- only one piece of clip on him, but he seemed sound- SRR claimed he was too pretty to fight him? Wow.

Great call on who named Francesco Bojado. I can't figure out...what happened?
It seemed GBP gave him a solid fighter with limited punching power in Steve Forbes as a final shot- and Forbes I remember that fight...brought his azz to the table. Panchito didn't look bad at all in that fight, rather Forbes delivered a spectacular showing. Humble kid, sound skills; was the matchmaking to tough to early? I dunno, but I thought he was the real-deal.

Jorge Linares may not be an A rated fighter, but I feel on a grade level he is about a B+ or A-.
He was boxing Demarco sound, real clinic, then Demarco's corner does a Dundee ala Ray Leonard vs Hearns and told him- "this is where we separate the boys from the men...ya blowin' it kid"
Damn Demarco brought out a trunk of funk...Real desparate comeback and busted up Linares outta nowhere.



Carlos Quintana- Joel Julio should have never fought this unknown, and when he did, I remember the commentators stating they were fighting in 90 plus degree condition and Quintana's footwork was tremendous, his stamina; on full. Defense, solid. He moved, pivoted, shoulder roll, this guy was showing all the goods & respectable punching power started backing Julio up. I (KNEW) Quintana was gonna be a major force.

Then Cotto busted him up in four rounds: Not so much that Quintana is chinny, but rather his skin isn't durable, he simply busts up easy.

He gave a great- performance against Paul in their first fight, but it was all downhill for Quintana after that.

There is a bad- I mean bad kid from Arizona. Mexican But I can't think of his name. Roach got him for a minute, then he hurt himself and he has been on the shelf. Tall, thin..he should have been a marquee name by now...I am kicking myself that I cant think of his name. He is still undefeated, but he is doing an Andre Ward: he is a ghost. He is likely to fade away if he doesnt do something real soon.

Can anyone help me on this one? Mexican. Fights out of Arizona, About a lightweight. Punching power in BOTH hands. But is on the shelf for the past two years.

[SlimTrae]

Scratch the last one, there is hope for him. I called him a top prospect in 2012 and he only fought once in 2013. But per boxrec he has been active in 2014 Jose Benavidez.

4 years: only 21 fights welter being brought along too slow IMO- unless he is injruy prone-set to face Muarico Herrera.

[Kirkland Laing]

Scratch the last one, there is hope for him. I called him a top prospect in 2012 and he only fought once in 2013. But per boxrec he has been active in 2014 Jose Benavidez.

4 years: only 21 fights welter being brought along too slow IMO- unless he is injruy prone-set to face Muarico Herrera.

In addition to the hand problems he also looks to have a glass jaw. He got caught by a non-puncher in one of his recent fights and was out on his feet. How he survived the round I don't know. He was still wobbled at the end of the fight. His jab is a thing of beauty though.

[ykdadamaja]

I'm just now learning about Charlie Burley- only one piece of clip on him, but he seemed sound- SRR claimed he was too pretty to fight him? Wow.

Great call on who named Francesco Bojado. I can't figure out...what happened?
It seemed GBP gave him a solid fighter with limited punching power in Steve Forbes as a final shot- and Forbes I remember that fight...brought his azz to the table. Panchito didn't look bad at all in that fight, rather Forbes delivered a spectacular showing. Humble kid, sound skills; was the matchmaking to tough to early? I dunno, but I thought he was the real-deal.

Jorge Linares may not be an A rated fighter, but I feel on a grade level he is about a B+ or A-.
He was boxing Demarco sound, real clinic, then Demarco's corner does a Dundee ala Ray Leonard vs Hearns and told him- "this is where we separate the boys from the men...ya blowin' it kid"
Damn Demarco brought out a trunk of funk...Real desparate comeback and busted up Linares outta nowhere.



Carlos Quintana- Joel Julio should have never fought this unknown, and when he did, I remember the commentators stating they were fighting in 90 plus degree condition and Quintana's footwork was tremendous, his stamina; on full. Defense, solid. He moved, pivoted, shoulder roll, this guy was showing all the goods & respectable punching power started backing Julio up. I (KNEW) Quintana was gonna be a major force.

Then Cotto busted him up in four rounds: Not so much that Quintana is chinny, but rather his skin isn't durable, he simply busts up easy.

He gave a great- performance against Paul in their first fight, but it was all downhill for Quintana after that.

There is a bad- I mean bad kid from Arizona. Mexican But I can't think of his name. Roach got him for a minute, then he hurt himself and he has been on the shelf. Tall, thin..he should have been a marquee name by now...I am kicking myself that I cant think of his name. He is still undefeated, but he is doing an Andre Ward: he is a ghost. He is likely to fade away if he doesnt do something real soon.

Can anyone help me on this one? Mexican. Fights out of Arizona, About a lightweight. Punching power in BOTH hands. But is on the shelf for the past two years.

José Benavidez. He has hand problems, just like Prince Naseem- the power he generates is just too great for his brittle hands.

[nuggetdotcom]

UK wise I would suggest Errol Christie, showing my age a bit.

[SlimTrae]

I'm just now learning about Charlie Burley- only one piece of clip on him, but he seemed sound- SRR claimed he was too pretty to fight him? Wow.

Great call on who named Francesco Bojado. I can't figure out...what happened?
It seemed GBP gave him a solid fighter with limited punching power in Steve Forbes as a final shot- and Forbes I remember that fight...brought his azz to the table. Panchito didn't look bad at all in that fight, rather Forbes delivered a spectacular showing. Humble kid, sound skills; was the matchmaking to tough to early? I dunno, but I thought he was the real-deal.

Jorge Linares may not be an A rated fighter, but I feel on a grade level he is about a B+ or A-.
He was boxing Demarco sound, real clinic, then Demarco's corner does a Dundee ala Ray Leonard vs Hearns and told him- "this is where we separate the boys from the men...ya blowin' it kid"
Damn Demarco brought out a trunk of funk...Real desparate comeback and busted up Linares outta nowhere.



Carlos Quintana- Joel Julio should have never fought this unknown, and when he did, I remember the commentators stating they were fighting in 90 plus degree condition and Quintana's footwork was tremendous, his stamina; on full. Defense, solid. He moved, pivoted, shoulder roll, this guy was showing all the goods & respectable punching power started backing Julio up. I (KNEW) Quintana was gonna be a major force.

Then Cotto busted him up in four rounds: Not so much that Quintana is chinny, but rather his skin isn't durable, he simply busts up easy.

He gave a great- performance against Paul in their first fight, but it was all downhill for Quintana after that.

There is a bad- I mean bad kid from Arizona. Mexican But I can't think of his name. Roach got him for a minute, then he hurt himself and he has been on the shelf. Tall, thin..he should have been a marquee name by now...I am kicking myself that I cant think of his name. He is still undefeated, but he is doing an Andre Ward: he is a ghost. He is likely to fade away if he doesnt do something real soon.

Can anyone help me on this one? Mexican. Fights out of Arizona, About a lightweight. Punching power in BOTH hands. But is on the shelf for the past two years.

José Benavidez. He has hand problems, just like Prince Naseem- the power he generates is just too great for his brittle hands.

Damn shame, but appreciate the update...

[IamInuit]

Joe Mesi?

Could be at least two causes here.

Sam Langford. He achieved a lot for those times but was simply not allowed to challenge. Like a great artist, never really appreciated until after he was gone.
Charlie Burley. Ditto
His crew, the entire Murderers row. Ditto. It took his mate Archie Moore 160 fights to get a title shot.

With those guys, they were not in charge of there own destiny because of the colour barrier and even after it was relaxed they never got their just rewards.

Jimmy Young. Fought in the best hev era in hev boxing. Would over achieve in one fight and then underachieve in the next. I think he beat Ali and we all know what he did to Foreman.

Zab Judah
Juan Guzman
James Toney

Separate category for these 3. Self discipline was vacant. They prevented themselves. Nobody else.