Who is the most talented boxer to never achieve anything and fade away into obscurity

[mikeeod]

Howard Davis Jr. and Mark Breland. Google both guys. Davis was supposed to be better than Ray Leonard (who also has an interesting story from that same olympics where his own teammates were making fun and saying Ray stood no chance in the finals) and was a complete flop as a pro. Never won a world championship and he was gold medalist in the 76 olympics. Breland was also a BEAST as an Olympic Gold medalist and predicted to be the cream of the crop from the 84 team of Evander, Meldrick Taylor and Pernell Whitaker. Breland was just too nice of a guy and he never lived up to his potential as a pro.

Ricardo Williams and Pachito Bojado were two other guys who were complete wash outs, as was Ray Mercer to a degree. Lonnie Bradley also, now that I think about it. He was being called the next Ray Robinson and the biggest threat to Roy Jones Jr. at one point.

[Kirkland Laing]

Joan Guzman.

[p4pking]

Joan Guzman.

Nice, he's the exact guy I always think of for this. With a lot of the big flops, you hear about amateurs who were expected to do more as pros. It is often the case that they didn't have as effective a style, or weren't durable enough to have the same success there, rather than it being something the fighters did or didn't do outside of the ring. Guzman is different in that he is a PURE waste of pro talent. He had body control and reflexes on a MAyweather or Rigondeaux level for a good few years, and just never seemed to take his career seriously. He was never found out or exposed, he just didn't bother making weight or chasing the big fights, then got old. Now that is a waste. I would have picked Guzman over Pacquiao at 130 at one point.

[mikeeod]

Joan Guzman.

Nice, he's the exact guy I always think of for this. With a lot of the big flops, you hear about amateurs who were expected to do more as pros. It is often the case that they didn't have as effective a style, or weren't durable enough to have the same success there, rather than it being something the fighters did or didn't do outside of the ring. Guzman is different in that he is a PURE waste of pro talent. He had body control and reflexes on a MAyweather or Rigondeaux level for a good few years, and just never seemed to take his career seriously. He was never found out or exposed, he just didn't bother making weight or chasing the big fights, then got old. Now that is a waste. I would have picked Guzman over Pacquiao at 130 at one point.

I agree with you on Guzman being a bad style match up for Manny. I was planning on betting big on that one when it looked like they were going to fight.

[Spicoli]

Always think of careers clipped early with these, like a Jemal Hinton world ranked but literally just turned his back on Manny Steward and...poof Never achieve is pretty deep as many grabbed trinkets or had shots they just fell short, or didn't develop enough-well.

[Otley]

Always think of careers clipped early with these, like a Jemal Hinton world ranked but literally just turned his back on Manny Steward and...poof Never achieve is pretty deep as many grabbed trinkets or had shots they just fell short, or didn't develop enough-well.

Didn't he find God and just retired due to his religious beliefs?


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[Master]

Oba Carr was the most talented fighter I ever saw that did not become a world champion. His boxing skills were outstanding.

[ykdadamaja]

Always think of careers clipped early with these, like a Jemal Hinton world ranked but literally just turned his back on Manny Steward and...poof Never achieve is pretty deep as many grabbed trinkets or had shots they just fell short, or didn't develop enough-well.

Apparently he is a trainer now and training still. But, he doesn't fight because, apparently, he follows a strict form of islam that doesn't condone harming someone else. Perhaps those guys in ISIS or Al-Queda should follow that brand of islam too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVQWmryTniY


Se video: [video youtub.e;KVQWmryTniY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVQWmryTniY[/video]

See his gym in Kansas City: http://ringsidefitnessclub.com/our-t...s/jmal-hinton/

[Mark TKO]

Andre Ward

[ykdadamaja]

Howard Davis Jr. and Mark Breland. Google both guys. Davis was supposed to be better than Ray Leonard (who also has an interesting story from that same olympics where his own teammates were making fun and saying Ray stood no chance in the finals) and was a complete flop as a pro. Never won a world championship and he was gold medalist in the 76 olympics. Breland was also a BEAST as an Olympic Gold medalist and predicted to be the cream of the crop from the 84 team of Evander, Meldrick Taylor and Pernell Whitaker. Breland was just too nice of a guy and he never lived up to his potential as a pro.

Ricardo Williams and Pachito Bojado were two other guys who were complete wash outs, as was Ray Mercer to a degree. Lonnie Bradley also, now that I think about it. He was being called the next Ray Robinson and the biggest threat to Roy Jones Jr. at one point.

Real harsh on Breland. Breland ran into guys like Aaron Davis and Marlon Starling, plus had a chance to contend with Curry, Simon Brown, Honeyghan and a few other notables around that time at-both from light welter and jr.middle.

Sure, he didn't get a chance to fight all of the top names. But, at that time, fighting in that catch-division, everyone else was training to fight everyone else. Which means everyone was in peak condition and looking to fight.

During the early to mid-80's was probably the best, most competitive times at jr. welter to jr. middle we will ever see in boxing.

If Breland moved down, he had to face Pryor, Arguello or Kameda. If he moved up, he would have had to run into McCllellan, Benn, Mugabi and Norris.