Ward is the Super Middleweight Champion!

**Primo Carnera** · 11-02-2014 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by Beanflicker

Nobody is buying Froch as the #1 168lber in the world. It's wishful thinking by Froch fans, but there really is no way to justify it intellectually. He's not getting that #1 spot without fight Ward again.

I am Froch's biggest critic by a mile, but Ward is virtually retired and not counting him , Froch is no.1 in what is clearly a crap division.

**Master** · 11-02-2014 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

Originally Posted by Beanflicker

Nobody is buying Froch as the #1 168lber in the world. It's wishful thinking by Froch fans, but there really is no way to justify it intellectually. He's not getting that #1 spot without fight Ward again.

I am Froch's biggest critic by a mile, but Ward is virtually retired and not counting him , Froch is no.1 in what is clearly a crap division.

Ward is number 1 and you have to beat him. Just as GGG has to beat Cotto to get the spot.

**ykdadamaja** · 11-02-2014 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

Originally Posted by Beanflicker

Nobody is buying Froch as the #1 168lber in the world. It's wishful thinking by Froch fans, but there really is no way to justify it intellectually. He's not getting that #1 spot without fight Ward again.

I am Froch's biggest critic by a mile, but Ward is virtually retired and not counting him , Froch is no.1 in what is clearly a crap division.

Ward is number 1 and you have to beat him. Just as GGG has to beat Cotto to get the spot.

Not according to a lot of sources out there, including fightnews.com, which has GGG as the #1 guy.

Cotto is the lineal guy. So too is Ward. But it doesn't mean they are or should be the #1 guy.

**erics44** · 11-02-2014 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by ykdadamaja

Originally Posted by Master

Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

Originally Posted by Beanflicker

Nobody is buying Froch as the #1 168lber in the world. It's wishful thinking by Froch fans, but there really is no way to justify it intellectually. He's not getting that #1 spot without fight Ward again.

I am Froch's biggest critic by a mile, but Ward is virtually retired and not counting him , Froch is no.1 in what is clearly a crap division.

Ward is number 1 and you have to beat him. Just as GGG has to beat Cotto to get the spot.

Not according to a lot of sources out there, including fightnews.com, which has GGG as the #1 guy.

Cotto is the lineal guy. So too is Ward. But it doesn't mean they are or should be the #1 guy.

How long can ward stay out of the ring or fight no one in particular and stay number 1?