Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
Who would possibly recognize Froch as the #1 in the division outside of Froch and possibly his family?

Froch and Jr are bigger draws for sure, but at the end of the day every serious boxer should have the itching desire to be the #1 guy, and that desire should supersede everything else. It should drive guys nuts that there are guys ranked higher than them.

So for these big draws who won't fight Ward - especially Froch, who should have the added incentive of avenging a loss - they've resigned themselves to the fact that they can't touch Ward and getting whipped by him would only detract from the status they currently hold. I think that's pretty sad.

People want to talk about Froch in the same light as Calzaghe, Hatton, ect. Calzaghe and Hatton were the undisputed #1 guys in their weight division for a certain period: Froch was never the #1 guy at 168.
Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
Nobody is buying Froch as the #1 168lber in the world. It's wishful thinking by Froch fans, but there really is no way to justify it intellectually. He's not getting that #1 spot without fight Ward again.
As long as Ward is around, Froch is the number two fighter in the world. Froch also been more active and done more than Ward has in his career. He beat Bute when Ward wouldn't travel to Montreal to face Bute. He avenged his loss against Kessler and sold out Wembley Stadium against the next best domestic super middleweight in Groves. Ward fought a weight-drained Dawson and Edwin Rodriguez and has done nothing else.