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    Default Re: Floyd's competition vs Manny's competition

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    I do not like Leonard (or Floyd for that matter) but his victory over Hearns was what a great fighter is made of. He was fighting another great fighter who had huge power and was behind on the cards but he came back. I do not believe Floyd would have beaten that Hearns, but that is unfair of Floyd because that was not his best weight.
    I can't argue that, styles do make fights.

    Sorry to repeat- but I am playing the D-advocate. I prefer the era of Hearns-Haglar-Duran-SRL over the current one.

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    For a guy with only 40 fights, Leonard packed a lot into his time in boxing.

    IMO Leonard faced more adversity in his 40 fight career than a lot of old timers faced in their 200 fight careers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlimTrae View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    I do not like Leonard (or Floyd for that matter) but his victory over Hearns was what a great fighter is made of. He was fighting another great fighter who had huge power and was behind on the cards but he came back. I do not believe Floyd would have beaten that Hearns, but that is unfair of Floyd because that was not his best weight.
    I can't argue that, styles do make fights.

    Sorry to repeat- but I am playing the D-advocate. I prefer the era of Hearns-Haglar-Duran-SRL over the current one.
    I know you are playing devils advocate but I think Leonard got the eye injured against Hearns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
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    I do not like Leonard (or Floyd for that matter) but his victory over Hearns was what a great fighter is made of. He was fighting another great fighter who had huge power and was behind on the cards but he came back. I do not believe Floyd would have beaten that Hearns, but that is unfair of Floyd because that was not his best weight.
    I can't argue that, styles do make fights.

    Sorry to repeat- but I am playing the D-advocate. I prefer the era of Hearns-Haglar-Duran-SRL over the current one.
    I know you are playing devils advocate but I think Leonard got the eye injured against Hearns.
    Agreed. Didn't a boxer previous start the retina problems? I've read about it....awhile back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
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    I do not like Leonard (or Floyd for that matter) but his victory over Hearns was what a great fighter is made of. He was fighting another great fighter who had huge power and was behind on the cards but he came back. I do not believe Floyd would have beaten that Hearns, but that is unfair of Floyd because that was not his best weight.
    I can't argue that, styles do make fights.

    Sorry to repeat- but I am playing the D-advocate. I prefer the era of Hearns-Haglar-Duran-SRL over the current one.
    I know you are playing devils advocate but I think Leonard got the eye injured against Hearns.
    Agreed. Didn't a boxer previous start the retina problems? I've read about it....awhile back.
    His eye was seriously injured during the Hearns fight and was never put right until after he fought Hagler. What I am saying is Leonard could have avoided fighting such a dangerous challenge by making all sorts of demands to get out of the fight because his career was cut short because of it. Yet Sugar Ray did not and still does not claim to be the best ever.
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    Manny picking Algeiri is more of a joke than anyone Floyd has fought in the last 10 years or so.

    At first, I was justifying Manny picking Algeiri because he was moving down to 140 and wanted to grab a trinket to facilitate a showdown with Danny Garcia. I didn't know until recently that the fight was happening at WW, a weight Algeiri has never fought at, and therefore is for Manny's WBO WW belt and not Algeiri's LWW belt.

    It's one of the most blatant examples of a hand picked patsy I've ever seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Manny picking Algeiri is more of a joke than anyone Floyd has fought in the last 10 years or so.

    At first, I was justifying Manny picking Algeiri because he was moving down to 140 and wanted to grab a trinket to facilitate a showdown with Danny Garcia. I didn't know until recently that the fight was happening at WW, a weight Algeiri has never fought at, and therefore is for Manny's WBO WW belt and not Algeiri's LWW belt.

    It's one of the most blatant examples of a hand picked patsy I've ever seen.
    I think it is a weak match up, and I won't pay the money to watch it or point to it as one of Manny's good, or even solid wins after. That being said, after coming off of a Bradley type opponent, I'm good with him having a soft fight. I actually think Algieri would beat Maidana, so I don't really see your outrage for the fight. I would agree with you that neither Algieri or Maidana were/are PPV worthy fighters. If Manny starts fighting soft touches back to back, I will be the first to be critical. Hard for me to fault him when he fights someone like JMM and is KTFO, comes back for Rios (as a soft touch comeback fight), then takes on Bradley who is undefeated and just beaten JMM before taking on another guy not at that elite level. I see Manny picking Garcia or some big name after Algieri, so other than it being on PPV, I don't mind it. I thought the kid looked good against Prov and he actually looks like the bigger man to me when I see them side by side. Manny should be 135-140 in my opinion.

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    Default Re: Floyd's competition vs Manny's competition

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Manny picking Algeiri is more of a joke than anyone Floyd has fought in the last 10 years or so.

    At first, I was justifying Manny picking Algeiri because he was moving down to 140 and wanted to grab a trinket to facilitate a showdown with Danny Garcia. I didn't know until recently that the fight was happening at WW, a weight Algeiri has never fought at, and therefore is for Manny's WBO WW belt and not Algeiri's LWW belt.

    It's one of the most blatant examples of a hand picked patsy I've ever seen.
    It's a catchweight fight. Remember it's all about what have you done for me lately. Unbeaten guy coming off "world" title win, makes sense
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