Hopkins moving down in weight

[Fenster]

Hopkins doesn't really offer Froch a big money fight. Hopkins is not a PPV fighter, his purse on Saturday was $1m to Kovalev's 500k. Whoever and wherever Froch fights next he's on that combined total minimum. Last time Hopkins was let near a PPV it did 100,000 buys.

Chavez jr's rematch with Vera is the most watched fight in the States this year.

You Know more about Chavez's popularity in the States than me and I realise people would pay to watch him open an Envelope over there. However, if you've seen what Hearn classes as PPV over here, trust me Hopkins vs Froch would be PPV in the UK even if it was in Vegas and shown at 3am British time. And the fact that Hopkins purse was $1m on Saturday is further proof that it could happen because Hearn would guarantee him double that at least.

Just looked back and noticed you're a brit! sorry for trying to "teach Granny to suck eggs!"

Ha!

For sure it would be PPV over here (again - whoever Froch fights next that will be the case) but it wouldn't be in the States. Froch is not PPV in America. The whole idea of fighting Chavez jr is because HE is a PPV attraction with the right opponent, that's where the big purses come from, not the regular shows. I'm sure Hopkins would expect Golden Boy to promote it not Matchroom. If Eddie offered him a wad he'd want to promote it over here, can't see that in Hopkins plans

[Primo Carnera]

Hopkins doesn't really offer Froch a big money fight. Hopkins is not a PPV fighter, his purse on Saturday was $1m to Kovalev's 500k. Whoever and wherever Froch fights next he's on that combined total minimum. Last time Hopkins was let near a PPV it did 100,000 buys.

Chavez jr's rematch with Vera is the most watched fight in the States this year.

You Know more about Chavez's popularity in the States than me and I realise people would pay to watch him open an Envelope over there. However, if you've seen what Hearn classes as PPV over here, trust me Hopkins vs Froch would be PPV in the UK even if it was in Vegas and shown at 3am British time. And the fact that Hopkins purse was $1m on Saturday is further proof that it could happen because Hearn would guarantee him double that at least.

Just looked back and noticed you're a brit! sorry for trying to "teach Granny to suck eggs!"

Ha!

For sure it would be PPV over here (again - whoever Froch fights next that will be the case) but it wouldn't be in the States. Froch is not PPV in America. The whole idea of fighting Chavez jr is because HE is a PPV attraction with the right opponent, that's where the big purses come from, not the regular shows. I'm sure Hopkins would expect Golden Boy to promote it not Matchroom. If Eddie offered him a wad he'd want to promote it over here, can't see that in Hopkins plans

I hear what you're saying, but I just think that apart from Floyd, for whatever reason (maybe we get mugged a bit) , the big money is just as attainable over here for the rest .
for example , it's widely reported that Froch got £8m ($13m) and Groves £1.5m ($2.5m) for their last fight. if that's the case , who (Including Chavez) earns anything like that ?
I fully take on Board that Chavez is PPV and sells well while Hopkins isn't, but I reckon even if Hearn did a joint promotion with Golden Boy and it was in Vegas , (but PPV in the UK) , that Froch could earn £4m ($6.5m) and Hopkins at least £2m ($3m) .
Better still I reckon they would give Hopkins over £1m to come over here and beat Bellew and Cleverley on the same night!

[ruthless rocco]

Hopkins has been known to bet on his own fights. He bet on the Tito fight as well as the Tarver fight. Maybe he bet his $1mil against Kovalev and lost it all.

He probably really needs a big payday before retiring.

What about Sturm in Germany?

[IamInuit]

There is really nothing in it at this stage for the legacy of his opponent no matter who it is and as @Fenster correctly points out, its not that big a fight cash wise either. And if he were to beat you......

The Welsh would have a field day

Good luck promoting that one. Everyone in boxing saw what happened. The man has zero left outside his own mind. He never won a round. Any credibility that was left was taken last Saturday. I mean seriously all of a sudden at 50 175 is to big Thats a rationalization of a deluded mind and almost all greats fall prey to it. "I know I got one more left"

And lol @ Floyd

Other boxing circles are suggesting the Kazak. I just cant see it. He saw what happened and has to much self respect to pick up the bat and hit that horse one more time.

[Silkeyjoe]

There is really nothing in it at this stage for the legacy of his opponent no matter who it is and as @Fenster correctly points out, its not that big a fight cash wise either. And if he were to beat you......

The Welsh would have a field day

Good luck promoting that one. Everyone in boxing saw what happened. The man has zero left outside his own mind. He never won a round. Any credibility that was left was taken last Saturday. I mean seriously all of a sudden at 50 175 is to big Thats a rationalization of a deluded mind and almost all greats fall prey to it. "I know I got one more left"

And lol @ Floyd

Other boxing circles are suggesting the Kazak. I just cant see it. He saw what happened and has to much self respect to pick up the bat and hit that horse one more time.

This is harsh. He was clearly the smaller man v Kov and has no power at the weight. I have no doubt 168 would be a much better weight for him. Saying he had nothing left is just wrong. He comfortably beat Murat, Shumenov and Cloud in his 3 fights previous who are all probably top 20 light heavies. He also beat Pascal who is a top 10 LHW. He just got beat by a better fighter hands down. I dont think age had much to do with the loss and still think a Hopkins of 5 or 10 years ago would have lost to Kov.

Looking at boxrecs top 10 SMW there are plenty who Hopkins would still be trouble for. THe Dirrel brothers, Sturm Stieglitz and Abraham and hed be a nightmare for Chavez Jr.

[IamInuit]

There is really nothing in it at this stage for the legacy of his opponent no matter who it is and as @Fenster correctly points out, its not that big a fight cash wise either. And if he were to beat you......

The Welsh would have a field day

Good luck promoting that one. Everyone in boxing saw what happened. The man has zero left outside his own mind. He never won a round. Any credibility that was left was taken last Saturday. I mean seriously all of a sudden at 50 175 is to big Thats a rationalization of a deluded mind and almost all greats fall prey to it. "I know I got one more left"

And lol @ Floyd

Other boxing circles are suggesting the Kazak. I just cant see it. He saw what happened and has to much self respect to pick up the bat and hit that horse one more time.

This is harsh. He was clearly the smaller man v Kov and has no power at the weight. I have no doubt 168 would be a much better weight for him. Saying he had nothing left is just wrong. He comfortably beat Murat, Shumenov and Cloud in his 3 fights previous who are all probably top 20 light heavies. He also beat Pascal who is a top 10 LHW. He just got beat by a better fighter hands down. I dont think age had much to do with the loss and still think a Hopkins of 5 or 10 years ago would have lost to Kov.

Looking at boxrecs top 10 SMW there are plenty who Hopkins would still be trouble for. THe Dirrel brothers, Sturm Stieglitz and Abraham and hed be a nightmare for Chavez Jr.

Harsh? Nah thats reality. With all respect to Kov he is not that good. That is to say to shut out an anywhere near in good boxing health Hopkins. Ironically after all of these years of expecting him to grow old overnight, he actually did at 50. He's done. The demarcation line between 168 and 175 is a few more steaks. Its not as if he's going to melt down at age 50 and then go and find smaller and weaker men. Frochs as big as Kovalev. He's not going to fight just anyone either as stated in the article. He's having an internal scrap with his ego just like Roy and we've all seen what has happened there. He's accumulated 26+ years of hubris. Pepp and Moore also shared that same illness and many others that were nowhere near 3 decades in the sport.

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[Hulk]

The problem with going down in weight is that the opponents will be FASTER and 50 year old Bernard will have to cut weight. That's a terrible combination.

[Silkeyjoe]

There is really nothing in it at this stage for the legacy of his opponent no matter who it is and as @Fenster correctly points out, its not that big a fight cash wise either. And if he were to beat you......

The Welsh would have a field day

Good luck promoting that one. Everyone in boxing saw what happened. The man has zero left outside his own mind. He never won a round. Any credibility that was left was taken last Saturday. I mean seriously all of a sudden at 50 175 is to big Thats a rationalization of a deluded mind and almost all greats fall prey to it. "I know I got one more left"

And lol @ Floyd

Other boxing circles are suggesting the Kazak. I just cant see it. He saw what happened and has to much self respect to pick up the bat and hit that horse one more time.

This is harsh. He was clearly the smaller man v Kov and has no power at the weight. I have no doubt 168 would be a much better weight for him. Saying he had nothing left is just wrong. He comfortably beat Murat, Shumenov and Cloud in his 3 fights previous who are all probably top 20 light heavies. He also beat Pascal who is a top 10 LHW. He just got beat by a better fighter hands down. I dont think age had much to do with the loss and still think a Hopkins of 5 or 10 years ago would have lost to Kov.

Looking at boxrecs top 10 SMW there are plenty who Hopkins would still be trouble for. THe Dirrel brothers, Sturm Stieglitz and Abraham and hed be a nightmare for Chavez Jr.

Harsh? Nah thats reality. With all respect to Kov he is not that good. That is to say to shut out an anywhere near in good boxing health Hopkins. Ironically after all of these years of expecting him to grow old overnight, he actually did at 50. He's done. The demarcation line between 168 and 175 is a few more steaks. Its not as if he's going to melt down at age 50 and then go and find smaller and weaker men. Frochs as big as Kovalev. He's not going to fight just anyone either as stated in the article. He's having an internal scrap with his ego just like Roy and we've all seen what has happened there. He's accumulated 26+ years of hubris. Pepp and Moore also shared that same illness and many others that were nowhere near 3 decades in the sport.

Whats your logic behind Froch at 168 being as big as Kov at 175

[Silkeyjoe]

Hopkins has been known to bet on his own fights. He bet on the Tito fight as well as the Tarver fight. Maybe he bet his $1mil against Kovalev and lost it all.

He probably really needs a big payday before retiring.

What about Sturm in Germany?

He probably backed Kov and thats why he stunk out the place