Has Wlad whipped more undefeated fighters than anyone?

[Beanflicker]

Who is intrigued by Floyds cocky personality or undefeated streak ? I am not a huge Wlad fan but in the majority of his fights he knocks people out or stops them. So your "he just doesn't provide action assertion" is baloney.

Congrats on condensing more stupid into three sentences than anyone in the history of Saddoboxing.

Who's intrigued by Floyd's personality and undefeated streak? Must be somebody, he just made 32 million and did a million PPV buys fighting a second-rate guy who he had already beaten. Unless you want to claim that he's selling these PPVs with his exciting style??

And it's not the stoppages that make Wlad boring. It's the 8 to 11 rounds of jabbing, grabbing, and holding preceding the stoppage that make Wlad boring.

[Beanz]

Who is intrigued by Floyds cocky personality or undefeated streak ? I am not a huge Wlad fan but in the majority of his fights he knocks people out or stops them. So your "he just doesn't provide action assertion" is baloney.

Congrats on condensing more stupid into three sentences than anyone in the history of Saddoboxing.

Who's intrigued by Floyd's personality and undefeated streak? Must be somebody, he just made 32 million and did a million PPV buys fighting a second-rate guy who he had already beaten. Unless you want to claim that he's selling these PPVs with his exciting style??

And it's not the stoppages that make Wlad boring. It's the 8 to 11 rounds of jabbing, grabbing, and holding preceding the stoppage that make Wlad boring.

You can get as personal as you like and pile on the hyperbole but it does nothing to strengthen a flimsy argument. It's the kind of predictable nonsense you are prone to regurgitate and your subtext reads like an open book. Firstly jabbing, grabbing and holding are a huge part of Floyds fights but despite fighting little guys, recently he struggles to finish them with anything even approaching a full stop. Compare their last fights and then suck it up.

Secondly where are most of those buys? Amurrica the object of your Affection, where many wish to see him lose. Why? Not because they are intrigued by his personality but quite the opposite they are sick of the sport being represented by somebody without one. If you have to take photos of yourself with piles of money to make up for your lack of friends, soul or self esteem then in reality you are a huge loser. Sound familiar? :-P

[Beanflicker]

You can get as personal as you like and pile on the hyperbole but it does nothing to strengthen a flimsy argument. It's the kind of predictable nonsense you are prone to regurgitate and your subtext reads like an open book. Firstly jabbing, grabbing and holding are a huge part of Floyds fights but despite fighting little guys, recently he struggles to finish them with anything even approaching a full stop. Compare their last fights and then suck it up.

Secondly where are most of those buys? Amurrica the object of your Affection, where many wish to see him lose. Why? Not because they are intrigued by his personality but quite the opposite they are sick of the sport being represented by somebody without one. If you have to take photos of yourself with piles of money to make up for your lack of friends, soul or self esteem then in reality you are a huge loser. Sound familiar? :-P

I get personal with you because you're a dumb guy. I debate and go hard with guys here all the time but it's never personal, because it's mostly just opinion and conjecture, so it is what it is. You, on the other hand, have a long history of being unable to grasp simple concepts and arguing "points" that go against indisputable facts. And when you get called on it, you cry like a girl that people are getting "personal" with you. So what? Grow some balls.

Your entire post either bolstered my argument, or had nothing to do with it.

Intrigued: arouse the curiosity or interest of; fascinate.

Floyd's personality, I think it's safe to say, has aroused the interest of the general public. It doesn't mean they like him, it means they are interested in him. You say people tune in because they hate him and want to see him get his ass kicked... thanks for agreeing with me.

I don't know what Floyd being boring has to do with anything. Floyd is a boring fighter, I never said he was exciting. Wlad also usually fights in an ugly, boring fashion. Are you saying compared to Floyd he's exciting? I have no idea what you're trying to argue.

[GAME]

Wvlad should be high on the P4p lists and the people that exclude him can't know their boxing.

The stats don't lie. Yet another top unbeaten contender beaten effortlessly, approaching a decade of domination and not a man on the planet that can test him. Can't say that about anyone else

[Beanz]

You can get as personal as you like and pile on the hyperbole but it does nothing to strengthen a flimsy argument. It's the kind of predictable nonsense you are prone to regurgitate and your subtext reads like an open book. Firstly jabbing, grabbing and holding are a huge part of Floyds fights but despite fighting little guys, recently he struggles to finish them with anything even approaching a full stop. Compare their last fights and then suck it up.

Secondly where are most of those buys? Amurrica the object of your Affection, where many wish to see him lose. Why? Not because they are intrigued by his personality but quite the opposite they are sick of the sport being represented by somebody without one. If you have to take photos of yourself with piles of money to make up for your lack of friends, soul or self esteem then in reality you are a huge loser. Sound familiar? :-P

I get personal with you because you're a dumb guy. I debate and go hard with guys here all the time but it's never personal, because it's mostly just opinion and conjecture, so it is what it is. You, on the other hand, have a long history of being unable to grasp simple concepts and arguing "points" that go against indisputable facts. And when you get called on it, you cry like a girl that people are getting "personal" with you. So what? Grow some balls.

Your entire post either bolstered my argument, or had nothing to do with it.

Intrigued: arouse the curiosity or interest of; fascinate.

Floyd's personality, I think it's safe to say, has aroused the interest of the general public. It doesn't mean they like him, it means they are interested in him. You say people tune in because they hate him and want to see him get his ass kicked... thanks for agreeing with me.

I don't know what Floyd being boring has to do with anything. Floyd is a boring fighter, I never said he was exciting. Wlad also usually fights in an ugly, boring fashion. Are you saying compared to Floyd he's exciting? I have no idea what you're trying to argue.

Compare their last fights. Floyd is incapable of closing the show. 12 Rounds of jabbing,grabbing and holding sums him up well recently. You are obsessed with him.

[erics44]

the answer to the thread title could well be yes

what is an undoubtable fact is that Wlad had cuddled more undefeated fighters than any one else

[Fenster]

Wlad deserves credit for being a "champion" for a decade but - without meaning to be a boring repetitive cunt - he never had to face the other best "champion" of his era, who helped him clean out the division.

It adds a question mark, no?

[El Kabong]

Wlad deserves credit for being a "champion" for a decade but - without meaning to be a boring repetitive cunt - he never had to face the other best "champion" of his era, who helped him clean out the division.

It adds a question mark, no?

I don't really rate Vitali all that highly in his come back. He wasn't the same fighter. Wladimir has fought anyone and everyone and he's got a few more to go but if Pulev was the best it makes you wonder how anyone else will do. Wlad didn't even take Pulev seriously, he didn't respect his power or his boxing ability Wlad just got angry when Pulev connected then blasted him.

[El Kabong]

People complain about clinching still, but what is funny is they don't see any relation to clinching and boxing smart.

Bernard Hopkins for his entire career has fought in this manner, Andre Ward since he decided to NOT copy RJJ has been fighting this way, Floyd Mayweather Jr. has been utilizing clinching as well.

[erics44]

People complain about clinching still, but what is funny is they don't see any relation to clinching and boxing smart.

Bernard Hopkins for his entire career has fought in this manner, Andre Ward since he decided to NOT copy RJJ has been fighting this way, Floyd Mayweather Jr. has been utilizing clinching as well.

ha, its certainly smart

hes made millions and millions for pounds by clinching, holding and leaning

andre ward punches then clinches and despite being know as the best technician at his weight and lb4lb top 2 or 3, due to his fighting style, he makes little money to what youd expect?

hopkins grapples and punches, hes the oldest boxer to hold a world title, defended his middle weight title 20 times, still fighting the best at 50 years old, yet he is nowehere near pay per view, probably because of his style?

Wlad clinches, holds leans, holds, clinches and then punches, has a style vastly less interesting than hopkins or ward, gets endless favours off referees during his fights that only make his fights massively less interesting, yet he makes millions every time he fights, its a strange situation