Comparing Floyd and Bhop's opposition

[Master]

You can not blame Hopkins for not taking Joe at super middle. He use Joe as a negotiating tool to get Oscar which was a bigger money and easier fight.

[Beanflicker]

You can not blame Hopkins for not taking Joe at super middle. He use Joe as a negotiating tool to get Oscar which was a bigger money and easier fight.

There were at least 2 or 3 fights in between Joe's proposition and the DLH fight though. DLH was newly at 154 at that time, he hadn't even forayed up to MW.

For the record, I don't blame Hopkins for not jumping up to face Calzaghe, every champ in the history of boxing has done the same kind of thing. I'm just saying we should stop being naive children about it and pretending people only care about legacy and don't factor in risk/reward. It's just silly.

[powerpuncher]

You can not blame Hopkins for not taking Joe at super middle. He use Joe as a negotiating tool to get Oscar which was a bigger money and easier fight.

There were at least 2 or 3 fights in between Joe's proposition and the DLH fight though. DLH was newly at 154 at that time, he hadn't even forayed up to MW.

For the record, I don't blame Hopkins for not jumping up to face Calzaghe, every champ in the history of boxing has done the same kind of thing. I'm just saying we should stop being naive children about it and pretending people only care about legacy and don't factor in risk/reward. It's just silly.

No way. Bhop has never thought about the risk/reward for any fight. You take that back. He purely fights for legacy.

[mikeeod]

You can not blame Hopkins for not taking Joe at super middle. He use Joe as a negotiating tool to get Oscar which was a bigger money and easier fight.

There were at least 2 or 3 fights in between Joe's proposition and the DLH fight though. DLH was newly at 154 at that time, he hadn't even forayed up to MW.

For the record, I don't blame Hopkins for not jumping up to face Calzaghe, every champ in the history of boxing has done the same kind of thing. I'm just saying we should stop being naive children about it and pretending people only care about legacy and don't factor in risk/reward. It's just silly.

No way. Bhop has never thought about the risk/reward for any fight. You take that back. He purely fights for legacy.

Hop does fight for legacy. He just fought the guy at 175 that everyone else was running from. He fought him for like, $1M. That isn't a great payday for that kind of risk, especially when you consider Floyd gets over $20M for MAIDANA. Joe C., at that time, didn't do much for Hops legacy. Another super fight did. Hop was chasing Roy and Oscar at that point, and I can't remember ANYONE other than Joe pushing for that fight. Compare that demand for the overwhelming push from EVERYONE for Floyd to fight Manny.

[Master]

You can not blame Hopkins for not taking Joe at super middle. He use Joe as a negotiating tool to get Oscar which was a bigger money and easier fight.

There were at least 2 or 3 fights in between Joe's proposition and the DLH fight though. DLH was newly at 154 at that time, he hadn't even forayed up to MW.

For the record, I don't blame Hopkins for not jumping up to face Calzaghe, every champ in the history of boxing has done the same kind of thing. I'm just saying we should stop being naive children about it and pretending people only care about legacy and don't factor in risk/reward. It's just silly.

No way. Bhop has never thought about the risk/reward for any fight. You take that back. He purely fights for legacy.

Hopkins did want to become light heavyweight champion to secure his legacy by achieving something Ray Robinson could not do.

[powerpuncher]

You can not blame Hopkins for not taking Joe at super middle. He use Joe as a negotiating tool to get Oscar which was a bigger money and easier fight.

There were at least 2 or 3 fights in between Joe's proposition and the DLH fight though. DLH was newly at 154 at that time, he hadn't even forayed up to MW.

For the record, I don't blame Hopkins for not jumping up to face Calzaghe, every champ in the history of boxing has done the same kind of thing. I'm just saying we should stop being naive children about it and pretending people only care about legacy and don't factor in risk/reward. It's just silly.

No way. Bhop has never thought about the risk/reward for any fight. You take that back. He purely fights for legacy.

Hopkins did want to become light heavyweight champion to secure his legacy by achieving something Ray Robinson could not do.

I know but I was pointing out the joke that he has never considered anything but legacy when taking a fight.