How The Rich CH 4

[Dia bando]

I've just been hearing about a PFI deal the Conservatives did with a private equity firm. They've handed over a chunk of a local health authority to them. The private equity firm basically get a hospital, a couple of drop-in centres and a few GP practices buildings and contents for free ( worth hundreds of millions) and their entire budget. The first thing the private equity boys are doing is taking 15% of the budget directly in rent for buildings they've been given for free and have told the hospitals and centres to cut their spending by 15% immediately with more cuts and layoffs to come.

Oh wait, that deal was one of dozens done by the last Labour government.


Seriously, how much different do you think a Labour government will be? I'll have more to add to this tomorrow.

Well the Tories have sold off just about everything to there friends, only good Tory is a dead one.

How is the Labour party any different? The Labour politicians are all desperate for a payday from the city after their political career is over, they're exactly the same as the Tories. If you look at former Labour ministers who did favours for big firms when in office and then took a seat on the board of those firms when they left office the current number of Labour guys far exceeds the number of Conservative guys who did the same thing. So surely if you're upset about politicians doing favours for their freiends in big business you should be most upset at the Labour party?

Are YOU A TORY.

[Dia bando]

Remember the grass roots of the Tories , are landed gentry the Lord of the Manor type,
the working man has very little in common, with the working man.
Trouble is WE are a class society, them and us you may have money, but if your a council house
erk made good, they would take your money but you would still be riff raff, you would not have
the correct breeding.

The old school tie brigade rule, does not mater if your a thick git the World is there oyster, that
is most disappointing as they now run the country.
We have been told to tighten our belts, the poorly paid did but the rich there gut is hanging over
the trousers, what a coder sending bunch of BASTARDS I fucking hate Tories.
Thatcher fucked up the Country, WE were industrial giants they sold everything off, we are a
laughing stock we needed new train stock for our Railways, guess we went to Germany, do
you think they would buy of the UK BOLLOCKS.

[Kirkland Laing]

Remember the grass roots of the Tories , are landed gentry the Lord of the Manor type,
the working man has very little in common, with the working man.
Trouble is WE are a class society, them and us you may have money, but if your a council house
erk made good, they would take your money but you would still be riff raff, you would not have
the correct breeding.

The old school tie brigade rule, does not mater if your a thick git the World is there oyster, that
is most disappointing as they now run the country.
We have been told to tighten our belts, the poorly paid did but the rich there gut is hanging over
the trousers, what a coder sending bunch of BASTARDS I fucking hate Tories.
Thatcher fucked up the Country, WE were industrial giants they sold everything off, we are a
laughing stock we needed new train stock for our Railways, guess we went to Germany, do
you think they would buy of the UK BOLLOCKS.

The Conservative Party used to be the political party with the largest membership in the world. In the fifties they had nearly three million members. I'm pretty sure there aren't three million members of the landed gentry. They must have some actual grassroots grassroots.

[Kirkland Laing]

I've just been hearing about a PFI deal the Conservatives did with a private equity firm. They've handed over a chunk of a local health authority to them. The private equity firm basically get a hospital, a couple of drop-in centres and a few GP practices buildings and contents for free ( worth hundreds of millions) and their entire budget. The first thing the private equity boys are doing is taking 15% of the budget directly in rent for buildings they've been given for free and have told the hospitals and centres to cut their spending by 15% immediately with more cuts and layoffs to come.

Oh wait, that deal was one of dozens done by the last Labour government.


Seriously, how much different do you think a Labour government will be? I'll have more to add to this tomorrow.

Well the Tories have sold off just about everything to there friends, only good Tory is a dead one.

How is the Labour party any different? The Labour politicians are all desperate for a payday from the city after their political career is over, they're exactly the same as the Tories. If you look at former Labour ministers who did favours for big firms when in office and then took a seat on the board of those firms when they left office the current number of Labour guys far exceeds the number of Conservative guys who did the same thing. So surely if you're upset about politicians doing favours for their freiends in big business you should be most upset at the Labour party?

Are YOU A TORY.

What difference does it make?

What I'm saying is that there's no effective difference between Labour and Conservative. Whether I'm a Conservative or even a conservative is irrelevant. Whoever wins the next election and forms the next government is going to continue parcelling off the public sector to private firms and investors in return for future employment when they leave office. I don't understand the dismal tribalism when youe tribe leaders are going to shaft you in exactly the same way that the tribe you hate are going to shaft you.

So, bearing on mind that the facts and the evidence show all top Labour politicians from the Blair/Brown era left office and stuck their snouts straight in the trough (top earner among them Tony Blair, net worht when leaving office under half a million, current net worth thirty or forty million) why favour one bunch of crooks so strongly over the other bunch?

[Dia bando]

I've just been hearing about a PFI deal the Conservatives did with a private equity firm. They've handed over a chunk of a local health authority to them. The private equity firm basically get a hospital, a couple of drop-in centres and a few GP practices buildings and contents for free ( worth hundreds of millions) and their entire budget. The first thing the private equity boys are doing is taking 15% of the budget directly in rent for buildings they've been given for free and have told the hospitals and centres to cut their spending by 15% immediately with more cuts and layoffs to come.

Oh wait, that deal was one of dozens done by the last Labour government.


Seriously, how much different do you think a Labour government will be? I'll have more to add to this tomorrow.

Well the Tories have sold off just about everything to there friends, only good Tory is a dead one.

How is the Labour party any different? The Labour politicians are all desperate for a payday from the city after their political career is over, they're exactly the same as the Tories. If you look at former Labour ministers who did favours for big firms when in office and then took a seat on the board of those firms when they left office the current number of Labour guys far exceeds the number of Conservative guys who did the same thing. So surely if you're upset about politicians doing favours for their freiends in big business you should be most upset at the Labour party?

Are YOU A TORY.

What difference does it make?

What I'm saying is that there's no effective difference between Labour and Conservative. Whether I'm a Conservative or even a conservative is irrelevant. Whoever wins the next election and forms the next government is going to continue parcelling off the public sector to private firms and investors in return for future employment when they leave office. I don't understand the dismal tribalism when youe tribe leaders are going to shaft you in exactly the same way that the tribe you hate are going to shaft you.

So, bearing on mind that the facts and the evidence show all top Labour politicians from the Blair/Brown era left office and stuck their snouts straight in the trough (top earner among them Tony Blair, net worht when leaving office under half a million, current net worth thirty or forty million) why favour one bunch of crooks so strongly over the other bunch?

Well are you a Tory,! I agree one bunch of crooks for a other bunch, Thatcher started the great sell
off, you look at the power companies we pay more from energy just to keep share holders happy,
we are being ripped off. I don't like new Labour they pander to the middle class, politicians are
a untrustworthy bunch all of them.

[Master]

Kirkland is right I would vote Green but these Tory scum need to be thrown out of parliament.

[Dia bando]

The danger is UKIP people are pissed off, and they will vote for them we must remember
push comes to shove, they would go into a coalition with the Tories.
There new MP is a former Tory.

[Master]

Parliament needs a Guy Fawkes up them. I think a coalition would be a disaster.

[Kirkland Laing]

Kirkland is right I would vote Green but these Tory scum need to be thrown out of parliament.

If you think there's any difference between the three main parties you're not paying attention.

[Master]

Kirkland is right I would vote Green but these Tory scum need to be thrown out of parliament.

If you think there's any difference between the three main parties you're not paying attention.

There is enough difference for me to vote Labour. These Tories are extreme with their austerity measures and hitting the most vulnerable in society, privatising the public sector, whilst helping bankers and the super rich avoid paying their fair share of taxes.

[Dia bando]

Kirkland is right I would vote Green but these Tory scum need to be thrown out of parliament.

If you think there's any difference between the three main parties you're not paying attention.

There is enough difference for me to vote Labour. These Tories are extreme with their austerity measures and hitting the most vulnerable in society, privatising the public sector, whilst helping bankers and the super rich avoid paying their fair share of taxes.

Yes you put it over in simple terms, that are truthful and correct that word AUSTERITY is a favourite
of Cameron, who for David the poor it's a insult a put up and shut up we no what's good for you.
That is why I hate Tories bunch of bastards.

[Kirkland Laing]

Kirkland is right I would vote Green but these Tory scum need to be thrown out of parliament.

If you think there's any difference between the three main parties you're not paying attention.

There is enough difference for me to vote Labour. These Tories are extreme with their austerity measures and hitting the most vulnerable in society, privatising the public sector, whilst helping bankers and the super rich avoid paying their fair share of taxes.

Labour already said that they're going to stick to the exact same spending levels as the Conservatives, so they're just the same as far as austerity goes.

They spent 1997-2009 selling off everything not nailed down to the private sector including large chunks of the NHS. The number of PFI deals has actually dropped dramatically under the Conservatives.

Tax rates and tax collection on the richest has actually improved/tax rates gone up under the Conservatives.

So although what you wrote sounds good and sounds like things you'd expect a Labour government to do, what you wrote has zero basis in reality.

[Beanz]

Kirkland is right I would vote Green but these Tory scum need to be thrown out of parliament.

If you think there's any difference between the three main parties you're not paying attention.

Kirkland is right if you vote for them you are simply refilling the bowl with dirty dishwater. I shall be voting Green because at least they are willing to contemplate change, which for all the others is untenable. I don't want to maintain the old boys network that has now even infested the central parties and what used to be the opposition.

[ryanman]

Kirkland is right I would vote Green but these Tory scum need to be thrown out of parliament.

If you think there's any difference between the three main parties you're not paying attention.

Kirkland is right if you vote for them you are simply refilling the bowl with dirty dishwater. I shall be voting Green because at least they are willing to contemplate change, which for all the others is untenable. I don't want to maintain the old boys network that has now even infested the central parties and what used to be the opposition.

I agree with both you and Master.
I will be voting Green down here in Brighton. If I was based elsewhere I would vote for Labour.

Kirkland and you are right that there is barely any difference between the main parties, but personally I agree with Master that there is enough of a difference in values for me to vote Labour (unless I lived in Brighton who have a strong Green following - which I do). But can totally understand people not feeling that way of course.

Fuck UKIP though.

[Kirkland Laing]

Kirkland is right I would vote Green but these Tory scum need to be thrown out of parliament.

If you think there's any difference between the three main parties you're not paying attention.

Kirkland is right if you vote for them you are simply refilling the bowl with dirty dishwater. I shall be voting Green because at least they are willing to contemplate change, which for all the others is untenable. I don't want to maintain the old boys network that has now even infested the central parties and what used to be the opposition.

The furore over that white van man twitter message last Friday gave the game away. You've gota Labour MP who never worked a day in the private sector in her life sneering at a guy who should be a traditional nailed-on Labour voter.

Half our MPs now have never worked in the private sector. They read PPE at Oxford or Cambridge, they get a job as an assistant for an MP straight from university, they move up to become advisors for MPs, then they get parachuted into a safe seat. Miliband had exactly this kind of career and then after living all his life in London was parachuted into fucking Doncaster North. His brother was the MP for South Shields which is even more northern and godforsaken than Sunderland.

Every top Labour MP/member of the shadow cabinet has had this type of career. I don't think there's one of them worked in the private sector. Some of the Tories have but the majority of them have had the same Westminster bubble career too.

They all know each other from university and all socialise together. They all want to become a minister so they can then cash in by bending over for the private sector to get a seat on the board(s) when they leave office. Which party these fuckers join is almost irrelevant. It's getting to the top that matters, what party you're in is fairly irrelevant to them. They're all a bunch of interchangeable corporate servants.

And Miliband is well aware of the fact his party doesn't relate to working people anymore. He did and interview at the weekend saying how he "respected" white van men like they're fucking D-Day veterans or something. But the fact is the people who govern us don't give a flying fuck about the people they represent and it's most obvious with the Labour party if you care to look and Miliband knows this.