Where do you rank Wladimir Klitschko among the ATG heavyweights?

[Beanflicker]

Lennox refused to fight Byrd and Ruiz so what? He would have beat them anyway and he chose bigger and better opposition

I don't know if I'd classify guys like Frans Botha, Tua, Rahman, and whoever else he was fighting at the time as being better than Byrd. They were hot fighters at the time for sure, but Byrd had that crafty, nasty style that would have given Lewis fits. And Ruiz had that ugly wrestling style.

I'm not saying Lewis would have lost to either of them, but I think it's pretty obvious he felt that there was a good possibility he wouldn't look good fighting either of them.

[El Kabong]

Lennox refused to fight Byrd and Ruiz so what? He would have beat them anyway and he chose bigger and better opposition

I don't know if I'd classify guys like Frans Botha, Tua, Rahman, and whoever else he was fighting at the time as being better than Byrd. They were hot fighters at the time for sure, but Byrd had that crafty, nasty style that would have given Lewis fits. And Ruiz had that ugly wrestling style.

I'm not saying Lewis would have lost to either of them, but I think it's pretty obvious he felt that there was a good possibility he wouldn't look good fighting either of them.

I think the main reason he didn't fight Byrd and Ruiz is because one or both were handled by Don King at the time and that's what kept the belts divided up for so long....greedy promoters not willing to risk their cash cows.

I think if Lewis would have had a problem with Byrd or Ruiz it would have been Byrd. I believe Lewis was certainly strong and quick enough to dispatch Ruiz early on and Ruiz could block shots but avoiding them altogether? Not so much.

Lewis would have beaten both, but everyone knows he wanted to fight Kirk Johnson win by dominant KO and call it a career.

[Beanflicker]

I can see why Lennox didn't take the fight with Byrd because he wanted the Tyson showdown, but I still say he would have struggled heavily vs Byrd. I think Chris was a brutal matchup for him, especially at that stage of his career.

[El Kabong]

I can see why Lennox didn't take the fight with Byrd because he wanted the Tyson showdown, but I still say he would have struggled heavily vs Byrd. I think Chris was a brutal matchup for him, especially at that stage of his career.

Chris Byrd was a really good heavyweight and I hate that he doesn't get more credit. Good defense, fast hands, not much power, but he shocked a few guys out there.

[Beanflicker]

For sure, IMO one of the best pure boxers in the history of the HW division. Ballsy too. Took the fight with Vitali on 7 days notice, even in losing the first half of the fight he was making Vitali miss and frustrating him, then turned the pressure on, started hurting him with vicious body shots and started walking him down.

So even if Lennox beat him, he knew he wasn't knocking him out, he knew Chris was going to make him miss a lot, he knew Chris had no fear of him and he knew that he'd really have to work for every round and wouldn't be able to sit back and take rounds off. It's a tough fight for him, especially at that point.

[Master]

Tua beat both Ruiz and was considered more dangerous than Byrd. Lewis was made £1million and a range rover for giving up his title.

[El Kabong]

Tua beat both Ruiz and was considered more dangerous than Byrd. Lewis was made £1million and a range rover for giving up his title.

David Tua did NOT beat Chris Byrd