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I have just compiled stats from Eubank Jr, Sr and BJS careers.

Iv done it starting with Jr's 18 fights. Iv then taken Srs 18 bouts leading up to the Benn fight to prove he hadnt fought any better quality before stopping one of the most dangerous fighters in the world.






I wasn't going to bother looking at Saunders first 18 fights as id been





led to believe as have a lot of other people that Saunders comp blows Eubank Jrs out the water but it was




quite interesting. He does have his last two fights which I havent added but BJS career is nearly 3 years

older than Jrs!!!

Eubank Jr 18 fights, 240 wins, 140 losses, 23 draws, 13 by ko

Eubank Sr 18 fights previous to


Benn, 224 wins, 214 losses, 34 draws, 13 by ko

Saunders first 18 fights, 228 wins, , 174 losses, 17 draws



Quite interesting to see Saunders opponents dont have as many wins and also have more losses. Yes his




last two fights are better quality than who Eubank has faced but he has nearly 3 years as a pro on Eubank.





Eubank is facing the European, British and Commonwealth champ in his 3rd year whereas Billy joe


Saunders is fighting someone who has faced nobodies 5 years in to his career!
So is this how it works Ross? I answer this question in another thread, you don't reply, and you start another thread without responding to my answer to your "theory".
Would you like me to copy and paste my reply to this thread? Or does that mean you'll have to start another thread and hope nobody notices.
No you silly twat! I thought it deserved a thread of its own. Dont take offence

As for Matty Hall beating Eubanks opponents, yeah he beat Pryce but Eubank stopped Alexey Ribchev in 3 who beat Hall, he also took Buglioni to the 6th.

Edit, also, are you fucking blind? I did answer you with "Ok, even though Eubank Jrs opponents have more wins than his dads did, they also had way more losses and draws. They may have fought better opposition, who knows but they weren't beating them!"

Second Edit! Just noticed that doesn't make sense to my point. Eubank Srs opponents had way more losses than Jrs!

Firstly, no offence taken.
Secondly, cheers for the heads up Silkeyjoe
Thirdly, I never mentioned Matty Hall
Fourth, your answer still banged on about stats, whereas my post was about levels and the actual quality of the fighters.
Fifth, with all your edits, I'm losing the will to live on this!

Enjoy.
Just because someones opponents MAYBE fought better opposition (I'm not going to compile every opponents opponent stat to prove a point) if they lost, they lost. Its like when Tyson Fury points out the reasoning that Chisora has faced some good opponents. He says "what does that matter when he's lost to every one?"

Journeymen make money by being beatable. Its there in black and white that Eubank Jrs have less losses and more wins than either his dad or Saunders. Saunders has also taken his merry time compiling that record. Could it be that Warren has been moving him slowly purposefully?
Ross, let's hope you finally get this......using your theory about stats chew on this.
Saunders last 6 opponents cumulative records 102-7
Eubanks jr. Last 6............ 97-34 (forget about draws)
Eubank sr. Last 6 before Benn1 ...... 98-57

I think that's pretty self explanatory.
Now, you said Eubank sr. Fought similar quality bums to Eubank jr. You asked.
" Your right but look at Eubank Srs record prior to beating Benn and point someone out better than anyone Eubank has faced.

And my reply was:
"Kid Milo - Good British Contender
Hugo Corti - Tough Argentinian who had only lost once before Eubank beat him for the WBC international title, and afterwards fought Chris Pyatt for a world title (admittedly lost, but do you think any of Jr's opponents will ever fight for a World Title?)
Johnny Melfah - Good British Contender with a very respectable amateur career when that meant something.
Anthony Logan - Commonwealth contender (American) and WBC Continental Americas belt holder with a better record than any of Jr's opponents."
So , in a nutshell,
Kid Milo - Equivalent of Nick Blackwell
Johnny Melfah - equivalent of John Ryder
Hugo Corti - equivalent of Curtis Stevens
Anthony Logan - equivalent of Jarrod Fletcher

My point was that Saunders has fought these kind of guys at this level, but Eubank jr. Hasn't , so how can we judge Jr?
I'll finish by repeating a question I asked above. Do you think any of Eubank Jr's opponents to date will ever fight for a World title?