How The Rich CH 4

[Dark Lord Al]

We shouldn't have annihilated Gordon Brown for every reason under the sun, none of which related to his ability.

He was the closet thing to the common man we've had in power for a long time. Working class background. Set up a newspaper when he was 12 to try to raise money for poor people etc.

But none of that matters because he wasn't charismatic and talked a bit funny.

Are you for real ? Brown was never voted in as PM. Secondly his ability, he was about as much use as a cat flap in an elephant house. A one eyed Scottish pillock.

Not sure what your basing that on other than some media bullshit.

He was so affective he is of course still the PM, as no other votes agreed with me.

I didn't say effective. Fact is he is from a working class background though and is highly intelligent.

Still not sure what you base your judgement on other than the bullshit of the morons and Cameron friends in the right wing press.

Vote for Farage next year and see what you get. A proper pillock.

Thank you for your recommendation I will bare it in mind. When note voting labour or tory.

[ryanman]

Kirkland is right I would vote Green but these Tory scum need to be thrown out of parliament.

If you think there's any difference between the three main parties you're not paying attention.

Kirkland is right if you vote for them you are simply refilling the bowl with dirty dishwater. I shall be voting Green because at least they are willing to contemplate change, which for all the others is untenable. I don't want to maintain the old boys network that has now even infested the central parties and what used to be the opposition.

I agree with both you and Master.
I will be voting Green down here in Brighton. If I was based elsewhere I would vote for Labour.

Kirkland and you are right that there is barely any difference between the main parties, but personally I agree with Master that there is enough of a difference in values for me to vote Labour (unless I lived in Brighton who have a strong Green following - which I do). But can totally understand people not feeling that way of course.

Fuck UKIP though.

[Dia bando]

I think Labour have a bit of humanity to them, as the Tories don't no the meaning of the word
they are driven to give the public second rate services, on the cheap delivered to us by there
friends.

[Kirkland Laing]

Kirkland is right I would vote Green but these Tory scum need to be thrown out of parliament.

If you think there's any difference between the three main parties you're not paying attention.

There is enough difference for me to vote Labour. These Tories are extreme with their austerity measures and hitting the most vulnerable in society, privatising the public sector, whilst helping bankers and the super rich avoid paying their fair share of taxes.

Labour already said that they're going to stick to the exact same spending levels as the Conservatives, so they're just the same as far as austerity goes.

They spent 1997-2009 selling off everything not nailed down to the private sector including large chunks of the NHS. The number of PFI deals has actually dropped dramatically under the Conservatives.

Tax rates and tax collection on the richest has actually improved/tax rates gone up under the Conservatives.

So although what you wrote sounds good and sounds like things you'd expect a Labour government to do, what you wrote has zero basis in reality.

[Kirkland Laing]

Kirkland is right I would vote Green but these Tory scum need to be thrown out of parliament.

If you think there's any difference between the three main parties you're not paying attention.

Kirkland is right if you vote for them you are simply refilling the bowl with dirty dishwater. I shall be voting Green because at least they are willing to contemplate change, which for all the others is untenable. I don't want to maintain the old boys network that has now even infested the central parties and what used to be the opposition.

The furore over that white van man twitter message last Friday gave the game away. You've gota Labour MP who never worked a day in the private sector in her life sneering at a guy who should be a traditional nailed-on Labour voter.

Half our MPs now have never worked in the private sector. They read PPE at Oxford or Cambridge, they get a job as an assistant for an MP straight from university, they move up to become advisors for MPs, then they get parachuted into a safe seat. Miliband had exactly this kind of career and then after living all his life in London was parachuted into fucking Doncaster North. His brother was the MP for South Shields which is even more northern and godforsaken than Sunderland.

Every top Labour MP/member of the shadow cabinet has had this type of career. I don't think there's one of them worked in the private sector. Some of the Tories have but the majority of them have had the same Westminster bubble career too.

They all know each other from university and all socialise together. They all want to become a minister so they can then cash in by bending over for the private sector to get a seat on the board(s) when they leave office. Which party these fuckers join is almost irrelevant. It's getting to the top that matters, what party you're in is fairly irrelevant to them. They're all a bunch of interchangeable corporate servants.

And Miliband is well aware of the fact his party doesn't relate to working people anymore. He did and interview at the weekend saying how he "respected" white van men like they're fucking D-Day veterans or something. But the fact is the people who govern us don't give a flying fuck about the people they represent and it's most obvious with the Labour party if you care to look and Miliband knows this.

[Master]

A lot of white van man actually vote Tory because they see them supporting them as small business.

[Kirkland Laing]

A lot of white van man actually vote Tory because they see them supporting them as small business.

Who are white van men? Mainly guys working for somebody else, builders, delivery drivers and so on or self-employed tradesmen. What do polls show are the overwhelming concerns of this group of people? Immigration causing their earning power to erode and the general state of the economy, availability of jobs and so on.

Back in 1973 Britain had a referendum on whether to join what was then called the Common Market and has now become the European Union. Back then the Labour party were dead against joining because the free movement of labour provision would allow foreigners into Britain to undercut British labour rates and take British jobs. The Conservative party were in favour of joining for the same reason.

If the Labour party was still the Labour party it would be dead against the EU and European integration. Old Labour guys still in the Labour party like Frank Field are dead against unlimited immigration destroying their constituents' earning power and want to reform the welfare system to make it harder for foreigners to claim benefits (also a lot of Brits!) too. So the Old Labour guys are basically UKIP on these issues. Because they're refugees from the Old Labour era before the party got taken over by a bunch of north London elite Westminster Bubble people.

[Dia bando]

A lot of white van man actually vote Tory because they see them supporting them as small business.

Who are white van men? Mainly guys working for somebody else, builders, delivery drivers and so on or self-employed tradesmen. What do polls show are the overwhelming concerns of this group of people? Immigration causing their earning power to erode and the general state of the economy, availability of jobs and so on.

Back in 1973 Britain had a referendum on whether to join what was then called the Common Market and has now become the European Union. Back then the Labour party were dead against joining because the free movement of labour provision would allow foreigners into Britain to undercut British labour rates and take British jobs. The Conservative party were in favour of joining for the same reason.

If the Labour party was still the Labour party it would be dead against the EU and European integration. Old Labour guys still in the Labour party like Frank Field are dead against unlimited immigration destroying their constituents' earning power and want to reform the welfare system to make it harder for foreigners to claim benefits (also a lot of Brits!) too. So the Old Labour guys are basically UKIP on these issues. Because they're refugees from the Old Labour era before the party got taken over by a bunch of north London elite Westminster Bubble people.

It's true and it happened but I don't think UKIP is the way to go, most politicians are shit bags they
change partys like changing socks. We had one shit in wrexham he was Labour then independent
and guess what now a fucking Tory

[Master]

A lot of white van man actually vote Tory because they see them supporting them as small business.

Who are white van men? Mainly guys working for somebody else, builders, delivery drivers and so on or self-employed tradesmen. What do polls show are the overwhelming concerns of this group of people? Immigration causing their earning power to erode and the general state of the economy, availability of jobs and so on.

Back in 1973 Britain had a referendum on whether to join what was then called the Common Market and has now become the European Union. Back then the Labour party were dead against joining because the free movement of labour provision would allow foreigners into Britain to undercut British labour rates and take British jobs. The Conservative party were in favour of joining for the same reason.

If the Labour party was still the Labour party it would be dead against the EU and European integration. Old Labour guys still in the Labour party like Frank Field are dead against unlimited immigration destroying their constituents' earning power and want to reform the welfare system to make it harder for foreigners to claim benefits (also a lot of Brits!) too. So the Old Labour guys are basically UKIP on these issues. Because they're refugees from the Old Labour era before the party got taken over by a bunch of north London elite Westminster Bubble people.

It's true and it happened but I don't think UKIP is the way to go, most politicians are shit bags they
change party like changing socks. We had one shit in wrexham he was Labour then independent
and guess what now a fucking Tory

We got a Tory in our constituency and we need to get him out.

[Dia bando]

A lot of white van man actually vote Tory because they see them supporting them as small business.

Who are white van men? Mainly guys working for somebody else, builders, delivery drivers and so on or self-employed tradesmen. What do polls show are the overwhelming concerns of this group of people? Immigration causing their earning power to erode and the general state of the economy, availability of jobs and so on.

Back in 1973 Britain had a referendum on whether to join what was then called the Common Market and has now become the European Union. Back then the Labour party were dead against joining because the free movement of labour provision would allow foreigners into Britain to undercut British labour rates and take British jobs. The Conservative party were in favour of joining for the same reason.

If the Labour party was still the Labour party it would be dead against the EU and European integration. Old Labour guys still in the Labour party like Frank Field are dead against unlimited immigration destroying their constituents' earning power and want to reform the welfare system to make it harder for foreigners to claim benefits (also a lot of Brits!) too. So the Old Labour guys are basically UKIP on these issues. Because they're refugees from the Old Labour era before the party got taken over by a bunch of north London elite Westminster Bubble people.

It's true and it happened but I don't think UKIP is the way to go, most politicians are shit bags they
change party like changing socks. We had one shit in wrexham he was Labour then independent
and guess what now a fucking Tory

We got a Tory in our constituency and we need to get him out.

Hopeful they will be voted out next year.

[Dia bando]

This point in time we have the Tories on a austerity trip, if I here Cameron say that word again
I would strangle the bastard. We must remember we are told to save thing's are tight maybe
for the poor, but the RICH are getting richer how on earth does this work, austerity for the poor.
Cameron tells us we are in the same boat, no dick head the poor are in a rowing boat, were they
are on the QE 2.

[Kirkland Laing]

Dismal tribalism.

[Dia bando]

Dismal tribalism.

What tribe are you in Champ.

[Kirkland Laing]

Dismal tribalism.

What tribe are you in Champ.

Not affiliated with anybody matey.

[Master]

Dismal tribalism.

What tribe are you in Champ.

Not affiliated with anybody matey.

If you do not vote you have no say.