Quote Originally Posted by mikeeod View Post
You are correct (obviously) when you say Manny hasn't scored a k.o. in years. A few points that, in my opinion, negate that fact:
1) While Manny didn't stop Algieri, he brutalized the kid and had him on the canvas multiple times. Algieri isn't Floyd, I'm not saying that, I'm just pointing out that his beating of Algieri was as close as u can get to a k.o. without getting one.
2) Margarito, Clottey...etc., were much larger fighters and were durable guys. Those guys are hard to stop due to their style. Rios is also a very durable fighter as was Shane Mosely, I don't think its a sign of deterioration to not stop guys with world class chins.
3). Most of the guys listed in my above two points focused more on surviving than winning vs Manny. It's very hard to get the k.o. when the other guy just wants to see the final bell, especially when they are larger and have world class chins.
4). Regardless of who Manny hasn't stopped, Floyd will have to respect his punch. With that, Manny has fast feet and is a high volume puncher. I don't see him blowing Floyd out in any scenario, but I do see a case/possibility where he could get the decision by just throwing a lot of shots that the judges favor over Floyd's defense and precision counters.

I feel Floyd is the favorite in this one. I also feel like it is the most intriguing fight out there now n that Manny has a better shot at winning than anyone else Floyd has fought in YEARS.
1)i agree but algieri isnt some world class fighter. IMO, for being known as a fighter that KO's people, he should have been able to. for example, i think if cotto dropped back to welter and fought algieri, cotto would stop him. im just saying this to give my opinion that algieri wouldnt survive with other top fighters around that weight but he did with pac. obviously i dont know but i think that would be the case.
2)i agree again that these were all fighters who are known to have great chins which is fine. even fighters with great chins can get stopped though if you deal enough punishment. just see what mosley did to margo. for someone like rios, i think that pac should have been on a level so much higher than him that he should have been able to beat him bad enough to get the stoppage at least. and i dont buy into the "pac is merciful." thats just an excuse.
3)true, but see my above two points.
4)floyd will definitely have to respect pac's punching power but that isnt a new thing. he has fought many fighters whose power he had to respect. he has also dealt with high volume punchers. like i said before in my post though, the difference between pac's high volume punching and someone like maidana is that pac doesnt make the fight ugly. he mainly throws at weird angles and just jumps in and out. i think that just like JMM does to pac every fight, floyd will limit his power shots massively.

this may or may not be true and we wont know until/if we see the fight but i dont see this at all being one of floyds toughest fights. i would say that it wouldnt even crack his top 5 maybe even top 10. this isnt because pac isnt better than other fighters that floyd has fought, but i think its just a good style match up for floyd and a bad one for pac.