Who Wins Floyd Mayweather vs Manny Pacquiao?

[Beanflicker]

Pac has to be careful to because Floyd can hurt him. Floyd doesn't hit as hard as a lot of people Manny fought, but it's not the power in the punch when it comes to a speedster like Manny, it's hitting him with something he doesn't see coming. Floyd's not Paulie Malignaggi. It's funny people say "ohh why didn't (insert name here) throw more punches vs Floyd", like it's voluntary or they think it's a good idea to not throw many punches. Floyd makes guys timid to throw. Manny's going to be no different. He got put to sleep lunging in by a guy who isn't a one-punch KO artist, it can happen against Floyd.

I've seen Pac befuddled by JMM too many times to think he's going to just go out and do what he likes vs Floyd.

[mikeeod]

Pac has to be careful to because Floyd can hurt him. Floyd doesn't hit as hard as a lot of people Manny fought, but it's not the power in the punch when it comes to a speedster like Manny, it's hitting him with something he doesn't see coming. Floyd's not Paulie Malignaggi. It's funny people say "ohh why didn't (insert name here) throw more punches vs Floyd", like it's voluntary or they think it's a good idea to not throw many punches. Floyd makes guys timid to throw. Manny's going to be no different. He got put to sleep lunging in by a guy who isn't a one-punch KO artist, it can happen against Floyd.

I've seen Pac befuddled by JMM too many times to think he's going to just go out and do what he likes vs Floyd.

Very good points. Personally, I see Manny coming out fast and Floyd having issues at first. Floyd will land something Manny doesn't see and buzz him and Manny will shift to a speed based Attack where he tries to throw inaccurate combos n use his foot speed to get distance before the counter. Similar to his third fight vs JMM where he tried to to change styles and just outhustle JMM n eke out the win. Floyd is bigger and better than JMM though so I see Floyd really picking him apart late in the fight. I love that Manny is chasing this fight n feel that anything can happen. That being said: careful what u wish for Manny...

[Beanflicker]

Manny really doesn't have anything to lose. He's going to make an insane amount of money and so what if he loses, he already got put to sleep by JMM so a loss to Floyd isn't really going to make people think less of him. And of course his fans will go to their graves saying that Pac was washed up when Floyd beat him, and Pac would have killed Floyd if they fought 4 years earlier. He's got 5 loses on his record, a 6th loss isn't going to make anyone love him any less.

Floyd's earning power and legacy really hinges on that undefeated record, because people hate Floyd. The second he loses to anyone, people are going to go "see, he was never good, he just fought hand picked stiffs and when he finally fought someone good he lost."

[mikeeod]

Manny really doesn't have anything to lose. He's going to make an insane amount of money and so what if he loses, he already got put to sleep by JMM so a loss to Floyd isn't really going to make people think less of him. And of course his fans will go to their graves saying that Pac was washed up when Floyd beat him, and Pac would have killed Floyd if they fought 4 years earlier. He's got 5 loses on his record, a 6th loss isn't going to make anyone love him any less.

Floyd's earning power and legacy really hinges on that undefeated record, because people hate Floyd. The second he loses to anyone, people are going to go "see, he was never good, he just fought hand picked stiffs and when he finally fought someone good he lost."

Ah, I don't know if I necessarily agree with your last statement. Everyone knows and can tell who the true haters are (for both guys), and I doubt those opinions matter for very much at all. If either guy wins, it isn't as impressive as it would've been 4 or 5 years ago. If either guy loses, they will remain an ATG in the eyes of historians n anyone whose opinion matters. Of the two sets of fans, and where I think things go terribly wrong, is that many Floyd fans blow it out of proportion if u disagree with their feelings that Floyd is TBE. You can articulate a rational argument why you feel this way,band even give credit to Floyd as an ATG and many of his fans will insist you hate him and think he is a cherry picking ducker. Just go back and look through the threads. Anyways, Floyd is an ATG and the best of his generation regardless of what happens now.

[Beanflicker]

If Mayweather loses to Pac, people will for sure get on his ass and discredit his entire career. People discredit his entire career anyway. I've been talking to Floyd haters for years, I know them in and out.

And I'm talking about the haters. I don't think someone is necessarily a hater if they don't think he's the greatest boxer ever. The haters are the ones who go to the extreme, who will sit down and explain to you how every fight Floyd had was a hand picked set up and he never fought anyone.

[fan johnny]

Pac has to be careful to because Floyd can hurt him. Floyd doesn't hit as hard as a lot of people Manny fought, but it's not the power in the punch when it comes to a speedster like Manny, it's hitting him with something he doesn't see coming. Floyd's not Paulie Malignaggi. It's funny people say "ohh why didn't (insert name here) throw more punches vs Floyd", like it's voluntary or they think it's a good idea to not throw many punches. Floyd makes guys timid to throw. Manny's going to be no different. He got put to sleep lunging in by a guy who isn't a one-punch KO artist, it can happen against Floyd.

I've seen Pac befuddled by JMM too many times to think he's going to just go out and do what he likes vs Floyd.

I beg to differ on JMM, he bulked himself up specifically to do just that. I think the danger for Pac here is more of timing shot where he runs into it and if you listen to both Bradley and JMM hitting Pac with that punch aint easy. They both say you have to preprepared to take a punch to make it happen. As the fight goes on and Floyd nails Pac a few times with that counter, Pac obviously should get more cautious. But hearing him, I'm not sure he has the mental state to do that against Floyd. The questions are can Floyd slow down the pace enough or is Pac fast enough to keep that higher work rate going and his he willing to back off what he says the people want. He picked it up in the last fight with JMM, so I'm guessing if Floyd is going to stick with the same fight plan, Pac gets more agressive.

[Beanflicker]

I beg to differ on JMM, he bulked himself up specifically to do just that. I think the danger for Pac here is more of timing shot where he runs into it and if you listen to both Bradley and JMM hitting Pac with that punch aint easy. They both say you have to preprepared to take a punch to make it happen. As the fight goes on and Floyd nails Pac a few times with that counter, Pac obviously should get more cautious. But hearing him, I'm not sure he has the mental state to do that against Floyd. The questions are can Floyd slow down the pace enough or is Pac fast enough to keep that higher work rate going and his he willing to back off what he says the people want. He picked it up in the last fight with JMM, so I'm guessing if Floyd is going to stick with the same fight plan, Pac gets more agressive.

Yeah but Floyd is a few steps above JMM and Tim Bradley.

I'm just saying I listened to people talk about what so and so was going to do to Floyd for the last 10 years. People championed his opponents and talked about how all they had to do was throw punches. Especially after the DLH fight, people said "oh that's the key, just keep throwing a jab".

It's all easier said than done. Floyd shuts guys down, it's what he does. He's an expert at hitting without getting hit, and when guys know they are going to get hit first and hard when they make a move, it makes them freeze, it breaks their rhythm, and they shut down. Pac's no different, for all his speed and flashiness, he's a very rhythmic fighter, he does his best work when he's fighting slow plodders who allow him to fight at his own pace. He doesn't get to do that with Floyd.

[brucelee]

I see Floyd getting goobled by Pac's volume punches and he will run all night.

Pac ultimately catches up on him and gets some knockdowns between rounds.

My fearless forecast: Pac by UD. Floyd will then tell people that Pac is the real deal and that he was not prepared for Pac's speed and weird angles.


In case Floyd changes his plan and engages Pac all the way, it will be Pac by TKO in the 6th round.

If you don't believe me, watch Barrera vs Pac 1 ( When Barrera was considered as the undisputed king of the super featherweight), Pac vs Morales 2 and then watch all the fights of Pac. I guarantee you that you will believe me after watching those fights.

[fan johnny]

I beg to differ on JMM, he bulked himself up specifically to do just that. I think the danger for Pac here is more of timing shot where he runs into it and if you listen to both Bradley and JMM hitting Pac with that punch aint easy. They both say you have to preprepared to take a punch to make it happen. As the fight goes on and Floyd nails Pac a few times with that counter, Pac obviously should get more cautious. But hearing him, I'm not sure he has the mental state to do that against Floyd. The questions are can Floyd slow down the pace enough or is Pac fast enough to keep that higher work rate going and his he willing to back off what he says the people want. He picked it up in the last fight with JMM, so I'm guessing if Floyd is going to stick with the same fight plan, Pac gets more agressive.

Yeah but Floyd is a few steps above JMM and Tim Bradley.

I'm just saying I listened to people talk about what so and so was going to do to Floyd for the last 10 years. People championed his opponents and talked about how all they had to do was throw punches. Especially after the DLH fight, people said "oh that's the key, just keep throwing a jab".

It's all easier said than done. Floyd shuts guys down, it's what he does. He's an expert at hitting without getting hit, and when guys know they are going to get hit first and hard when they make a move, it makes them freeze, it breaks their rhythm, and they shut down. Pac's no different, for all his speed and flashiness, he's a very rhythmic fighter, he does his best work when he's fighting slow plodders who allow him to fight at his own pace. He doesn't get to do that with Floyd.

Nothing wrong with your reasoning except pac not being an exception which is where we differ.