Re: Mike Tyson is TBE

Originally Posted by
p4pking

Originally Posted by
Max Power

Originally Posted by
NVSemin

Originally Posted by
Max Power
On Mike Tyson on lb for lb toplists...
Usually I would claim that no HW who has ALWAYS boxed in the unlimited division can ever rate lb for lb. Because only in the limited divisions do fighters require the complete set of boxing skills and attributes to be successful.
Therefore I would normally only consider former CW's whom were at the top of their game (David Haye, Evander Holyfield etc) who stepped up to HW as lb for lb material, because they proved their worth against guys their own size first and then stepped up to fight guys considerably larger than themselves at HW.
If I had to pick any NATURAL HW (200+) however who always boxed in the unlimited divsion, it would definitely be Mike Tyson, for a lb for lb toplist.
Whether he'd be successful with his style at CW were we to shrink him down to size though is unclear. He certainly seemed to have a great enough skillset for sure!
My point was that Mike Tyson mastered the essence of boxing science to the point, that he became too good for his time. It spoiled him.
In my opinion, technically, he was far advanced than all fighters up to this date.
Oh there's absolutely no doubt about that. In fact he definitely did possess the skills necessary for a lb for lb comparison as well, now I can reflect more clearly on it.
He would have BADLY battered anything that came before as if they were nothing but bums from the street.
Alas.. Unless things have changed around here lately, you are about to earn the disrespect of a great many posters.
Stand by for the "Jack Johnson, Louis and Ali would have "TAKEN" Mike Tyson" responses LOL

Nice to see you back Max! Do you still feel the indomitable pugilistic specimen that only modern training and sports science could have produced, being of course Chrs Arreola, woud have beaten everyone before Tyson as well??

Why would you ask that? Because he lost to Bermane Stiverne.
Either Stiverne, Arreola or Tyson culd have lined every single one of them and knocked them out.
Please show me a 6'4" 240lb guy as tough and can fight like Chris from before 1980? Yeah right!
Chris was WINNING that fight before he got tagged flush by a counter right hand from one of the hardest punchers in history. I'd say that's a pretty good effort if you ask me.
Oh and by the way, hi
"Enough with the games mate! Your messing with the Grand Master!"
Lennox Lewis
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