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Arreola doesn't jab and tie up, use his legs, he'd just trade punches and get clubbed out of there by a prime Tyson, you're dumb. Tony Tucker would have outboxed the Elephant seal as well.
That's just a ridiculous opinion.

Arreola is a well skilled boxer, just as good as most. And I'm not taking anything away from Tucker because he was good fighter too. The main difference between Arreola and most are physical advantages (height, power, weight and a very solid chin+stamina) and relentless aggression/pressure and heart. Imagine Tyson's victims vs Arreola? He'd knock there block off as well!

Now Tyson is one of my favourite all time boxers and I rate him highly, but there is GREAT questions on how he would tolerate the adversity of the current HW's, and 00's HW's and even some of the bigger+stronger ones which he didn't fight.

My opinion IS that he'd beat most of them, remember that. But he isn't destroying any opponent like Arreola who is skilled+big.

I noticed you making quips about Arrreola's fat weight. Do we really have to go there again?

In short it's the HW division, there are advantaged and disadvantages of being both lean and chubby at HW, as you said it is NOT athletics!

And almost too stupid to mention but I guess I'll have to.. Being chubby does not equate to less muscles.

Arreola is fast, Arreola has stamina, that is what's important. So who gives a F if he isn't ripped!

Now Tyson might be TBE for all I know but let's not try and sell that he destroys the upper echelons of boxing ina few rounds here ey!
You are in the upper echelons of annoying. Do you think Adamek was a better HW than Tony Tucker? Was Travis Walker more dangerous than Razor Ruddock in your opinion? It's very possible a few of Tysons victims would have beaten Arreola. You think the guy is a really hard fight for anyone who ever lived, most people don't rate him as a great fighter at all, because he wasn't quite. Not really sure what else there is to say.
I would personally pick Arreola to beat Razor and Tucker. Both would be tough fights for Arreola though.

Arreola wasted 230+lbs Travis Walker wtf! He got KD'd once, got up and destroyed.

Adamek is definitely better HW than Tucker wtf!

Tucker was long and had skills but he was very lazy. HW Adamek had great chin, was stronger than Tucker, faster and had better reflexes.

I don't care what others rate him. 99% of boxing fans AND "experts" are retarded. I evaluate fighters purely on fact, all mythology excluded.

Tyson afficianados are fond of saying it's not just the competition he fought but the way he beat them too and I agree. The opposite is also true though. It's not just that Arreola lost to top competitors but HOW well he lost to them too.

Tyson lost to lesser competition than Arreola has.

Everytime Tyson DID fight comparable opponents to those that beat Chris, he DID lose.
You seem to evaluate fighters purely on industrial glue. Facts? What are you even talking about. A fact is that Arreola has never beaten anyone, absolutely nobody who wasn't mediocre. How WELL he lost to Vitali or Adamek, what does that mean, how does he possibly get the type of credit you seem to give him for those fights? He just took a beating against an old Vitali and showed heart to hang tough(Chisora did much better) and Adamek was a former LHW!!! Michael Spinks is another guy who could have likely beaten Adamek and Arreola in his day, or maybe even in the shape he fought Tyson. Hard to say since he wouldn't have been intimidated by two guys he was better than as opposed to a great HW. Who did Tyson lose to that was comparable to Adamek? Travis Walker had Arreola in a lot of trouble in the first round, I brought that up because he was a bit like a badly faded Tyson without the chin. I feel like the biggest dope for even responding to you