Re: Mike Tyson is TBE

Originally Posted by
p4pking
You seem to evaluate fighters purely on industrial glue. Facts? What are you even talking about. A fact is that Arreola has never beaten anyone, absolutely nobody who wasn't mediocre. How WELL he lost to Vitali or Adamek, what does that mean, how does he possibly get the type of credit you seem to give him for those fights? He just took a beating against an old Vitali and showed heart to hang tough(Chisora did much better) and Adamek was a former LHW!!! Michael Spinks is another guy who could have likely beaten Adamek and Arreola in his day, or maybe even in the shape he fought Tyson. Hard to say since he wouldn't have been intimidated by two guys he was better than as opposed to a great HW. Who did Tyson lose to that was comparable to Adamek? Travis Walker had Arreola in a lot of trouble in the first round, I brought that up because he was a bit like a badly faded Tyson without the chin. I feel like the biggest dope for even responding to you

Objectively Adamek and Holyfield are fairly comparable. Balanced skillset, great conditioning, very strongly build for smaller guys, strong chins carried to HW and both good vs larger+good opposition.
Yeah Michael Spinks might have been able to run around for 12 rounds with Arreola like he did vs Holmes and like Adamek did vs Arreola, why not! He also could have been found and banged out! Adamek and Spinks is an interesting match. Again, I think Adamek is MUCH better than Spinks! Spinks was basically a walking knockout for a good+hard punching HW who was aggressive.
Yeah Walker got the drop on Arreola. Can happen when your fighting a guy 230+lbs! Arreola got back up to stop Walker within 3 rounds! So much for your precious Travis Walker! LOL
Again, Tyson did have a good chin overall, but I have to point out that Douglas and Holyfield were renowned featherfists themselves. Ok Buster was heavy and he accumulated a lot of punches on Tyson sure, but Holyfield has one of the most abysmal KO performances of all champs and was not heavy at all! Back to Buster, he fought a good fight but let's be honest, he was no fucking LEnnox Lewis. It should come as no surprise that the fearless Arreola could concievably perform well also, especially since Arreola cracks far harder.
We both seem to agree on Tyson being very special here, the degree of which however we're in stark contrast.
Tyson is balls deep against any boxer approaching 6'4" with good skills, a hard chin and a hard punch. He would "grind out" wins against these opponents.
All these memories of boxers flying left and right from Tyson has to be adjusted to the truth. Those opponents were EITHER china-chinned, featherfisted, bummy or small, or sme combination thereof (with some exceptions of course). Chris Arreola, for example exhibits NONE of those qualities.
Last edited by Max Power; 12-07-2014 at 08:59 AM.
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