Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
There is a big difference when you are trying to coompare THIS..

http://www.josportsinc.com/item_images/1328371622.jpg

http://www.rankopedia.com/CandidatePix/113395.gif

To this...

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2011/0328...ones01_576.jpg

And especially to this!...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/166000...0_lewsi300.jpg

I'm sorry, but I don't need a crystal ball to predict that outcome.

Anyway, sure the closer eras are, the more it's blurred.

But 100 years is a significant time.

There is a fool proof way to know what the best eras are.

It's the current and the most recent ones (90's+ imo).

Because boxers getter better and stronger from generation to generation in general. Journeymen todat cheive their records by beating better and stronger bums than previously. Contenders today bet better and stronger journeymen. Champs today beat better and stronger contenders.

Past eras as far back as your referring to were RIDDLED with bums. These days the champs are disallowed to fight bums, only at the beginning of their careers before they become champs.

In Tunney's era and around that time, bum fights were sometimes considered world championships!
And so you feel then that the Klitchskos have fought no bums?

So then I could take this to mean that all of the fighters who the Klitchkos fought were way better than anyone from the 1980s and back.

And Wladimir and Vitali would beat the mouthpieces off every HW 1980 and previous? Because they are bigger and taller? Remember now, the younger brother had to learn a system from E. Steward and before that he was getting dropped left and right. Without Emanuel Steward his height didn't get him very far. & Steward is (old) school.

Also remember back then they didn't wear 16oz gloves. Those guys were some tough hombres.

In theory I agree as time moves on, every sport produces a generation slightly better, but that is conjecture and seemingly flawed one a case by case basis.

Just follow me here- Today in football the average player is heavier, taller and stronger Agree?
Same with basketball.

Yet this is a fact if we choose to try me: Today guys who are more muscular have way friggin more injuries and are sidelined. Back in the day athletes didn't have trainers and conditioners who burn all that fat away, leaving muscle to rupture, tear.

Yesteryear those athletes had a special anger that starvation, depression brought about..it is an inner strength that you or I can't measure. They didn't do like Vitali did against Chris Byrd and quit...over a shoulder injury.


So back to boxing...a man like Jack Johnson may not be as big as today's HW, but he took shots with gloves that would be illegal today.

And I agree you don't need a crystal ball to predict the outcome...because it cant predicted. Or speculated, there we part ways. This conversation is purely subjective, be it 50 year difference 100 or last year. Only fighters who are upright and still breathing can we make predictions that come to fruition.
Everything else is purely speculative.
Nevertheless I respect a fight fan who sticks to their guns and you come out guns a blazing!
Might be shooting blanks though...