Huge Benghazi bombshell -- Obama actually in trouble now

[walrus]

Are you ready for eight years of Hillary to follow the eight years of Kenyan socialism?

I don't like Hillary at all, but even recusing my political beliefs from the argument I can't see how she'll A) Be the candidate and B ) win the general election for the following reasons.

1. Her name alone. Clinton. So you're telling the American people we'd willingly go H. W. Bush, Bill Clinton, W. Bush, Obama, Hillary Clinton? And you figure we'd be ok with that? We don't do kings and we don't do royal families...not even Jeb Bush will win this election.

2. Again her age/health....is it sexist to bring those up? If that decisions was Hillary's to make she'd say yes in a heartbeat. That spill she took while getting on the airplane is going to stick with her as is her testimony on Benghazi...as will Benghazi in general, remember her 3 a.m. phone call ad? Yeah that's going to be used against her effectively.

3. Here's a question maybe you could answer on her behalf "What was her defining moment/best event/biggest deal as Secretary of State?"

1. Hillary is, as best we can tell, a woman. And so are roughly 50% of the American population. She may be the second Clinton running for prez but she's the first woman ever. And that fact overrides her surname. The surname is irrelevant anyway. It's only going to matter to people who are going to vote Republican anyway. It'll definitely be a talking point for the GOP during the election campaign....

2 ... as will her age and health and Benghazi which again are things which will only really matter to people who vote Republican. And they'll be all the GOP talk about (rmember Swift Boat Veterans for the Truth? Those fuckers selling that book you were on about the other day will be the 2016 SBVFTT for instance). The last thing the GOP want to do is talk about their actual policies so their entire campaign will be Benghazi, she's old, something she said in 1972, rehashed non-scandals from the 1990s, Bill Clinton's penis, the 2016 version of "you didn't build that".........

3. Again, something only GOP voters will find relevant. What was Romney's defining moment as governor of Mass.? Fucking Obamacare, that's what. How much coverage did that get in 2012? How much older was John McCain in 2008 than Hillary will be in 2016? How much coverage did his age get in the 2008 campaign? You need to stop looking at every single fucking thing through the prism of conservative media.

Actually, since 1872 the US has had roughly 36 women run for president.

[Kirkland Laing]

Are you ready for eight years of Hillary to follow the eight years of Kenyan socialism?

I don't like Hillary at all, but even recusing my political beliefs from the argument I can't see how she'll A) Be the candidate and B ) win the general election for the following reasons.

1. Her name alone. Clinton. So you're telling the American people we'd willingly go H. W. Bush, Bill Clinton, W. Bush, Obama, Hillary Clinton? And you figure we'd be ok with that? We don't do kings and we don't do royal families...not even Jeb Bush will win this election.

2. Again her age/health....is it sexist to bring those up? If that decisions was Hillary's to make she'd say yes in a heartbeat. That spill she took while getting on the airplane is going to stick with her as is her testimony on Benghazi...as will Benghazi in general, remember her 3 a.m. phone call ad? Yeah that's going to be used against her effectively.

3. Here's a question maybe you could answer on her behalf "What was her defining moment/best event/biggest deal as Secretary of State?"

1. Hillary is, as best we can tell, a woman. And so are roughly 50% of the American population. She may be the second Clinton running for prez but she's the first woman ever. And that fact overrides her surname. The surname is irrelevant anyway. It's only going to matter to people who are going to vote Republican anyway. It'll definitely be a talking point for the GOP during the election campaign....

2 ... as will her age and health and Benghazi which again are things which will only really matter to people who vote Republican. And they'll be all the GOP talk about (rmember Swift Boat Veterans for the Truth? Those fuckers selling that book you were on about the other day will be the 2016 SBVFTT for instance). The last thing the GOP want to do is talk about their actual policies so their entire campaign will be Benghazi, she's old, something she said in 1972, rehashed non-scandals from the 1990s, Bill Clinton's penis, the 2016 version of "you didn't build that".........

3. Again, something only GOP voters will find relevant. What was Romney's defining moment as governor of Mass.? Fucking Obamacare, that's what. How much coverage did that get in 2012? How much older was John McCain in 2008 than Hillary will be in 2016? How much coverage did his age get in the 2008 campaign? You need to stop looking at every single fucking thing through the prism of conservative media.

Actually, since 1872 the US has had roughly 36 women run for president.

OK, the first woman running for one of the two main parties/a party with a chance of winning.