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    Default Re: Huge Benghazi bombshell -- Obama actually in trouble now

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    but I guess when you look at where the money comes from it spins around in the same circles, so it isn't such a waste. Plus they can always print some more and give it to the banks
    About three or four months ago you discovered the existence of fractionated reserve banking. To say your knowledge of where money comes from is at a Janet and John level is an insult to Janet and John books and the preschoolers who read them.

    The Fed recently ended QE. Why aren't we currently seeing skyrocketing bond yields, hyperinflation and so on, hmmm?


    Not currently happening. Why not?
    As a prodigious, intelligent and successful man of the world (ice cream marketing, greatest seller of useless products etc), fractional reserve banking is something I have known about for many years. In certain nations it has become more than fractional reserve banking with infinite re-hypothecation meaning in essence that the money is emerging from a complete vacuum. The banks have nothing to back up their cooked and rather scruffy books beyond a wave of frauds and manipulations.

    The Fed may have ended the latest round of money printing (fraud), but the scheme is a global one and the buck has merely been passed onto Japan. The reason we are not seeing hyper inflation is because the Feds printed money is being handed directly to the banks (almost for free) and they are holding onto it because, as I mentioned before, these institutions are insolvent. This isn't rocket science. Unless money actually gets passed on to the real economy there will be no significant inflation. All the inflation is in stocks and asset prices. In the real world wages are falling and continue to fall.

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    That's not what you were saying a few months ago. A few months ago you were convinced as soon as the Fed stopped QE the dollar would collapse.
    I do not recall ever having made this particular statement. As soon as QE stops you would expect the markets to stop rising as they are. However, all I can see is a central banking cartel that passes the buck when the heat gets too hot thus the fraud continues unchecked. The cartel seem to be very much in collusion and I am not sure they can end QE without the painful consequences. Assets and stocks are overvalued, but with ZIRP at unprecedented levels, I have a hard time seeing normality ever in place again. The system has eaten itself alive and those in charge know it, they have no way of winding it all back in and so the continued mirage of stocks and assets is being used to suggest recovery, when in fact the entire system is in a much worse place than last time.

    I think banking as a % of GDP stands at something like 450% today and that is with them constantly in the dock and insolvent beyond their frauds. By comparison it was only 150% in 1990. Deregulation and infinite hypothecation has led to some rather outrageous behaviour and 2008 was only a slight unraveling. Instead of dealing with it, they opened another bottle of bubbly and continued to gorge on the rotten carcass of the imperialist economies. They should have gone bust, but now there are no serious penalties for the banking class, it's anyone's guess what comes next.

    Economic norms and expectations have a very difficult time in times of unprecedented absurdity. It's anyone's guess where it ends up, but the banks as they stand likely have to go.
    I had a little look but can't find it. Miles, the Fed just stopped buying $75 billion of US bonds a month. All the fucking idiots you get your information from predicted that when this stopped bond yields would skyrocket and the dollar would collapse. You and Brockton have been coming out with this crap for years. Yet the bond market has swallowed the monthly 75 large without even a burp.

    And now you're trying to blame the non-collapse of the dollar on the Bank of Japan buying Japanese bonds? Exactly how the fuck does the Japanese central bank buying Japanese bonds affect the American bond market or the creditworthiness of the US government?

    Actually don't even bother answering, for fuck's sake just stick to teaching English.

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    Therefore, you must be making things up. The economist Ha Joon Chang makes the valid observation that most economics is mere common sense. One does not need a phd to make accurate and observable statements about the economy or economics. All one needs is a general understanding of the practices taking place and to interpret them accordingly. In fact if you were to follow the subject using certain schools of analysis, then your approach would be ideological, which would be tantamount to religious or political faith rather than any common sense. Economics is largely agenda driven and thus not a science. The concepts of trickle down economics or the joys of globalisation are a case in point. Trickle down is a myth and globalisation an ideological crusade for corporations to override governments.

    If anything it is those in the finance industry that caused the crash, driven by the academics that promoted their greed with agenda driven discourse, and the politicians that were bought and sold that are the problem. The viewpoints of Reginald Perrin as salient, lucid, and remarkably calm in the face of such a diatribe, as they are, are merely the economic views of common sense. On that basis any ordinary person can be an economist or banker and in all likelihood would struggle to do as bad a job as George Osborne or Jamie Dimon. Though of course the inhumane and greedy would argue that they have done a fine job, but alas those are the views of corrupt psychopaths. The economics of common sense is not ideological or written by economists for finance or corruption, it is the economics of concern for people.

    The economic policies of central banks is the furthest away from the economics of common sense as one can be. It is the economics of insanity and has practically no regard for people. The only people it is concerned about protecting are the psychopaths for whom enough is never enough. A common sense man would say they all have to go.

    Community banking works and that is all you need. Customers deposit money then loans are made to business using fractional reserve banking and hey presto, a banking system as it was once known. Balance sheets that are transparent and a system that knows what it can manage. The banking of investment and finance stands in marked contrast and I don't think many ordinary people would be sad to see it all go.

    Common sense, it all goes back to the roots. Central banks should really be abolished. They are not necessary. Likewise, investment banking has grown massively since 1980 and on the whole it has been far more trouble than it is worth too....for ordinary people. Take these elements away and return life to a basic banking model that serves its people and a peg that controls government spending (eg. gold standard) then one is heading towards something a bit more human. However, there are a lot of people in finance and they know it is their ticket.

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    Haha! Why are you calling someone named Reginald Perrin.... 'miles'.....that is frankly weird, but I would expect nothing different from a banker.

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    I can explain it.
    But I cant understand it for you.

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    Great conversation here.

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    most economics is mere common sense. One does not need a phd to make accurate and observable statements about the economy or economics. All one needs is a general understanding of the practices taking place and to interpret them accordingly......................

    Common sense, it all goes back to the roots. Central banks should really be abolished. They are not necessary.
    Dead right Reggie. I agree entirely. And I've explained concepts like inflation, monetary policy and central banking to you in simple ways that even a Korean English teacher with no idea about economic and finance can understand.

    But you didn't learn anything. Your brain seems to be protected from understanding these simple concepts by some kind of nutter force field which only allows hysterical doom death and destruction nonsense into your brain and keeps simple facts and evidence from getting in there.


    A while ago you told me you got your information from a website calle d zero hedge. I told you that an article from that site from 2009 went viral in the financial community. I searched my messages and here it is

    Brace For Impact: In 2010, Demand For US Fixed Income Has To Increase Elevenfold... Or Else | Zero Hedge

    The guy has edited some of the more hysterical stuff out of it since but back in 2009 he was saying that the US bond market was about to blow up and melt the global economy down and all top US finance people had their jets on standby to get out quick before the pitchfork and torches mobs turned up.

    And while you are lamenting the death of private debt markets, here is precisely what the Fed, the Treasury, and all bank CEOs are doing all their best to keep hidden until they are safely on their private jets heading toward warmer climes.......

    This part has been heavily edited . It was far more hysterical before. Global meltdown, bankers flying off to their Caribbean hideaways and so on. But obviously it didn't happen. I'm sure you have an explanation why this didn't happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Reginald Perrin View Post
    most economics is mere common sense. One does not need a phd to make accurate and observable statements about the economy or economics. All one needs is a general understanding of the practices taking place and to interpret them accordingly......................

    Common sense, it all goes back to the roots. Central banks should really be abolished. They are not necessary.
    Dead right Reggie. I agree entirely. And I've explained concepts like inflation, monetary policy and central banking to you in simple ways that even a Korean English teacher with no idea about economic and finance can understand.

    But you didn't learn anything. Your brain seems to be protected from understanding these simple concepts by some kind of nutter force field which only allows hysterical doom death and destruction nonsense into your brain and keeps simple facts and evidence from getting in there.


    A while ago you told me you got your information from a website calle d zero hedge. I told you that an article from that site from 2009 went viral in the financial community. I searched my messages and here it is

    Brace For Impact: In 2010, Demand For US Fixed Income Has To Increase Elevenfold... Or Else | Zero Hedge

    The guy has edited some of the more hysterical stuff out of it since but back in 2009 he was saying that the US bond market was about to blow up and melt the global economy down and all top US finance people had their jets on standby to get out quick before the pitchfork and torches mobs turned up.

    And while you are lamenting the death of private debt markets, here is precisely what the Fed, the Treasury, and all bank CEOs are doing all their best to keep hidden until they are safely on their private jets heading toward warmer climes.......

    This part has been heavily edited . It was far more hysterical before. Global meltdown, bankers flying off to their Caribbean hideaways and so on. But obviously it didn't happen. I'm sure you have an explanation why this didn't happen.
    The answer is pretty simple. When the economy collapsed, it still left most of its capacity intact or to put it simply, it just led to a slack. Just pump in some money, and it will start rolling again and the slack taken up, and no amount of me or anyone else crying about possilble doom won't stop that process, fortunately or unfortunately, whatever your political affiliation.
    Once in awhile, get outside in fresh air, take a deep breath & with a deep sigh, let out all the things that's bottled up inside you & be free, & you'll get a glimpse of nirvana.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacfan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Reginald Perrin View Post
    most economics is mere common sense. One does not need a phd to make accurate and observable statements about the economy or economics. All one needs is a general understanding of the practices taking place and to interpret them accordingly......................

    Common sense, it all goes back to the roots. Central banks should really be abolished. They are not necessary.
    Dead right Reggie. I agree entirely. And I've explained concepts like inflation, monetary policy and central banking to you in simple ways that even a Korean English teacher with no idea about economic and finance can understand.

    But you didn't learn anything. Your brain seems to be protected from understanding these simple concepts by some kind of nutter force field which only allows hysterical doom death and destruction nonsense into your brain and keeps simple facts and evidence from getting in there.


    A while ago you told me you got your information from a website calle d zero hedge. I told you that an article from that site from 2009 went viral in the financial community. I searched my messages and here it is

    Brace For Impact: In 2010, Demand For US Fixed Income Has To Increase Elevenfold... Or Else | Zero Hedge

    The guy has edited some of the more hysterical stuff out of it since but back in 2009 he was saying that the US bond market was about to blow up and melt the global economy down and all top US finance people had their jets on standby to get out quick before the pitchfork and torches mobs turned up.

    And while you are lamenting the death of private debt markets, here is precisely what the Fed, the Treasury, and all bank CEOs are doing all their best to keep hidden until they are safely on their private jets heading toward warmer climes.......

    This part has been heavily edited . It was far more hysterical before. Global meltdown, bankers flying off to their Caribbean hideaways and so on. But obviously it didn't happen. I'm sure you have an explanation why this didn't happen.
    The answer is pretty simple. When the economy collapsed, it still left most of its capacity intact or to put it simply, it just led to a slack. Just pump in some money, and it will start rolling again and the slack taken up, and no amount of me or anyone else crying about possilble doom won't stop that process, fortunately or unfortunately, whatever your political affiliation.
    Redistribution of wealth too mate. Otherwise the money you pump in just ends up with the top one percent and you gwet the same old bubble and crash scenario.

    I know, I know, I'm a broken record.

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