Max powerism 101:

[Max Power]

good ol' max power. always trying to make the same arguments about the HW division today being really good. talks about guys like chagaev and ibromigov as if they are ATGs. if these HWs were as good as he says, the HW division would be super popular today in the US. people in the US arent as bad as others make them out to be. we like fighters from different countries and they can just as easily be our favorite fighters as a foreigner can be. if the division were that good, it would be popular and wlad would be a big name. if wlad were american, i dont think that things would change too much.

REALLY?

Watch Ibragimov whack out your big Lance Whitaker, then tell me he isn't no good, or Ruslan outbox the 7'2" 320lb Valuev for 12 rounds and tell me he isn't no good.

Before you can be taken seriously at all, I need you to first complete this little questionnaire...

Where are you from?
What colour are you?
Are you a writer or in any position where you might profit somehow by making such claims (socially or financially?

Do you think European fans would feel the same way as you? That your black and white American greats were class acts, drunkenly falling around the ring with each other but their own boxers now are garbage? BS

[ruthless rocco]

Before you can be taken seriously at all, I need you to first complete this little questionnaire...

Where are you from?
What colour are you?
Are you a writer or in any position where you might profit somehow by making such claims (socially or financially?

Do you think European fans would feel the same way as you? That your black and white American greats were class acts, drunkenly falling around the ring with each other but their own boxers now are garbage? BS

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oh... @Max Power!

[powerpuncher]

good ol' max power. always trying to make the same arguments about the HW division today being really good. talks about guys like chagaev and ibromigov as if they are ATGs. if these HWs were as good as he says, the HW division would be super popular today in the US. people in the US arent as bad as others make them out to be. we like fighters from different countries and they can just as easily be our favorite fighters as a foreigner can be. if the division were that good, it would be popular and wlad would be a big name. if wlad were american, i dont think that things would change too much.

REALLY?

Watch Ibragimov whack out your big Lance Whitaker, then tell me he isn't no good, or Ruslan outbox the 7'2" 320lb Valuev for 12 rounds and tell me he isn't no good.

Before you can be taken seriously at all, I need you to first complete this little questionnaire...

Where are you from?
What colour are you?
Are you a writer or in any position where you might profit somehow by making such claims (socially or financially?

Do you think European fans would feel the same way as you? That your black and white American greats were class acts, drunkenly falling around the ring with each other but their own boxers now are garbage? BS

haha. there are posters who claim that you said something that you didnt but you are the worst offender of this. i never said anything about anybody being a class act or any other country having bad fighters. all i said was that americans will embrace non americans. just look at pac for example. most americans would want him to KO mayweather despite mayweather being american. also, look at ufc. im not a huge follower of it but the biggest names i always heard were silva and st pierre and neither are american. so your claim that we as americans think that boxing isnt as big as it used to be only because there is no american HW dominating the division is completely false.

and where im from from america so i know from experience that what im saying is right. and im white which is the superior race so that makes me right too. just ask hitler. and also, im writing for a big historical boxing company so i have a lot of reason to defend old fighters and bash on current ones because they pay me the big bucks to come on boxing message boards to fill everybody's heads with all this propaganda.

[Max Power]

haha. there are posters who claim that you said something that you didnt but you are the worst offender of this. i never said anything about anybody being a class act or any other country having bad fighters. all i said was that americans will embrace non americans. just look at pac for example. most americans would want him to KO mayweather despite mayweather being american. also, look at ufc. im not a huge follower of it but the biggest names i always heard were silva and st pierre and neither are american. so your claim that we as americans think that boxing isnt as big as it used to be only because there is no american HW dominating the division is completely false.

and where im from from america so i know from experience that what im saying is right. and im white which is the superior race so that makes me right too. just ask hitler. and also, im writing for a big historical boxing company so i have a lot of reason to defend old fighters and bash on current ones because they pay me the big bucks to come on boxing message boards to fill everybody's heads with all this propaganda.

You outdone yourself with that one power-puncher.

UFC has only minor foreign involvement and it does have US champs most often. It is a US and Brazilian sport mainly. It has not yet gone global.

So your an American and a sports writer ey. Well then as I said, I'll take your opinion with a pinch of salt. As should any other objective person.

I've been participating in and watching boxing all my life. I think I can tell the difference between what's good boxing and not.

Basically this is what I think...

Prior to about the year 2000-2005, the internet was not well established, fight video's were not uploaded and boxrec was not prevalent.

Before then it was EASY to make claims like Muhammad Ali had a good resume, Joe Louis was the best technical boxer etc. And they fought great opponents too.

That's because nobody had access to these fights widely so nobody could see how poor quality the boxers really were. And they had no boxrec to see how bad their records were.

Only fairly recently we can now SEE the falsity for what it all was, it was disproven by resource technology.

Curiously, it happened at about the same time you got your ass booted out of HW boxing, and curiously at about the same time that the current era began to be belittled.

I don't think any of this is a coincidence! Fear is what started it all if you ask me Fear of not being the best at everything. The US does it to other sports too, as soon as they are not good at it, it's a weak era! Tennis is a good example!

[powerpuncher]

haha. there are posters who claim that you said something that you didnt but you are the worst offender of this. i never said anything about anybody being a class act or any other country having bad fighters. all i said was that americans will embrace non americans. just look at pac for example. most americans would want him to KO mayweather despite mayweather being american. also, look at ufc. im not a huge follower of it but the biggest names i always heard were silva and st pierre and neither are american. so your claim that we as americans think that boxing isnt as big as it used to be only because there is no american HW dominating the division is completely false.

and where im from from america so i know from experience that what im saying is right. and im white which is the superior race so that makes me right too. just ask hitler. and also, im writing for a big historical boxing company so i have a lot of reason to defend old fighters and bash on current ones because they pay me the big bucks to come on boxing message boards to fill everybody's heads with all this propaganda.

You outdone yourself with that one power-puncher.

UFC has only minor foreign involvement and it does have US champs most often. It is a US and Brazilian sport mainly. It has not yet gone global.

So your an American and a sports writer ey. Well then as I said, I'll take your opinion with a pinch of salt. As should any other objective person.

I've been participating in and watching boxing all my life. I think I can tell the difference between what's good boxing and not.

Basically this is what I think...

Prior to about the year 2000-2005, the internet was not well established, fight video's were not uploaded and boxrec was not prevalent.

Before then it was EASY to make claims like Muhammad Ali had a good resume, Joe Louis was the best technical boxer etc. And they fought great opponents too.

That's because nobody had access to these fights widely so nobody could see how poor quality the boxers really were. And they had no boxrec to see how bad their records were.

Only fairly recently we can now SEE the falsity for what it all was, it was disproven by resource technology.

Curiously, it happened at about the same time you got your ass booted out of HW boxing, and curiously at about the same time that the current era began to be belittled.

I don't think any of this is a coincidence! Fear is what started it all if you ask me Fear of not being the best at everything. The US does it to other sports too, as soon as they are not good at it, it's a weak era! Tennis is a good example!

first off, i was obviously joking about being a writer.

second and lastly, you make absolutely no sense when you make an argument. as i said in my last post to you, you start claiming random things that have nothing to do with anything. usually its a cop out to say that you make no sense and then leave the argument, but in this case, its a fact. you are making absolutely no sense and i cant even have a serious debate with you because you wont actually stay on any sort of subject. once your argument gets proven wrong you just use a lot of words and "facts" to make yourself sound smart but it doesnt work.