Max powerism 101:

[powerpuncher]

He is wrong period.

Wlad has been unbeaten in 10 years because the division is the worst it has ever been. The vast majority of challengers are so far below the standard 1990's that he has remained champion for so long. Wlad is a great heavyweight champion and a good role model but he does not clinically knock out fighters until he is 100% they have no resistance. He takes 10 rounds when it should be 5. He has a vulnerable chin and that is why he fights the way he does with excessive holding.

Better science my ass.

He CAN and DID knock out fighters much quicker and more aggressively in the past, look at the record, watch the fights!

Trouble is his opposition got much better and much more dangerous. He probably still could waste most of them anyway but why would he want to take more damage in the process when he can do it without it? And why would he increase his chance of losing to show off? He completely dissects his opponents, then knocks them out. Safely! That is smart science of boxing whether you have a strong chin or a weak one!

Let's say he has the weakest chin of all time (which is wrong but let's have it your way for now Master), basically your admitting that he is so unbelievably good that he can be successful in the hardest hitting and heaviest era ever on record for 10 years straight with a glass jaw.

LOL Which is it?

Well over in Europe, they consider the 90's a bum era. I have heard many Slavic posters make this claim with decent arguments too! Nationally biased? NO DOUBT!

The truth is, the 90's, 00's and now the 10's were VERY COMPARABLE!

Average boxer weight in Holyfield/Lewis era 220lbs. Average boxer weight in Klitschko (combined) era, 225lbs. Similar records. Look similarly good on film. Sorry but I personally see no clear advantage of either era!

Lewis, Bowe, Tyson, Holyfield from 1990’s v your top 4 2010?

Wladimir Klitschko
Vitali Klitschko
David Haye
Bermane Stiverne.

You picked 4 boxers from a span of 10 years, I picked 4 from a span of 4 years. And I see no clear dominance I'm sorry!

stiverne? i thought that even you wouldnt stoop that low...i shouldnt have assumed that though.

[Master]

He is wrong period.

Wlad has been unbeaten in 10 years because the division is the worst it has ever been. The vast majority of challengers are so far below the standard 1990's that he has remained champion for so long. Wlad is a great heavyweight champion and a good role model but he does not clinically knock out fighters until he is 100% they have no resistance. He takes 10 rounds when it should be 5. He has a vulnerable chin and that is why he fights the way he does with excessive holding.

Better science my ass.

He CAN and DID knock out fighters much quicker and more aggressively in the past, look at the record, watch the fights!

Trouble is his opposition got much better and much more dangerous. He probably still could waste most of them anyway but why would he want to take more damage in the process when he can do it without it? And why would he increase his chance of losing to show off? He completely dissects his opponents, then knocks them out. Safely! That is smart science of boxing whether you have a strong chin or a weak one!

Let's say he has the weakest chin of all time (which is wrong but let's have it your way for now Master), basically your admitting that he is so unbelievably good that he can be successful in the hardest hitting and heaviest era ever on record for 10 years straight with a glass jaw.

LOL Which is it?

Well over in Europe, they consider the 90's a bum era. I have heard many Slavic posters make this claim with decent arguments too! Nationally biased? NO DOUBT!

The truth is, the 90's, 00's and now the 10's were VERY COMPARABLE!

Average boxer weight in Holyfield/Lewis era 220lbs. Average boxer weight in Klitschko (combined) era, 225lbs. Similar records. Look similarly good on film. Sorry but I personally see no clear advantage of either era!

Lewis, Bowe, Tyson, Holyfield from 1990’s v your top 4 2010?

Wladimir Klitschko
Vitali Klitschko
David Haye
Bermane Stiverne.

You picked 4 boxers from a span of 10 years, I picked 4 from a span of 4 years. And I see no clear dominance I'm sorry!

stiverne? i thought that even you wouldnt stoop that low...i shouldnt have assumed that though.

Yes I am shocked that he thinks Haye and Stiverne be mentioned in the same breath as my 4 but he is scraping the barrel and could not think of anyone else. I would have been embarrassed and stopped typing.

[Max Power]

He is wrong period.

Wlad has been unbeaten in 10 years because the division is the worst it has ever been. The vast majority of challengers are so far below the standard 1990's that he has remained champion for so long. Wlad is a great heavyweight champion and a good role model but he does not clinically knock out fighters until he is 100% they have no resistance. He takes 10 rounds when it should be 5. He has a vulnerable chin and that is why he fights the way he does with excessive holding.

Better science my ass.

He CAN and DID knock out fighters much quicker and more aggressively in the past, look at the record, watch the fights!

Trouble is his opposition got much better and much more dangerous. He probably still could waste most of them anyway but why would he want to take more damage in the process when he can do it without it? And why would he increase his chance of losing to show off? He completely dissects his opponents, then knocks them out. Safely! That is smart science of boxing whether you have a strong chin or a weak one!

Let's say he has the weakest chin of all time (which is wrong but let's have it your way for now Master), basically your admitting that he is so unbelievably good that he can be successful in the hardest hitting and heaviest era ever on record for 10 years straight with a glass jaw.

LOL Which is it?

Well over in Europe, they consider the 90's a bum era. I have heard many Slavic posters make this claim with decent arguments too! Nationally biased? NO DOUBT!

The truth is, the 90's, 00's and now the 10's were VERY COMPARABLE!

Average boxer weight in Holyfield/Lewis era 220lbs. Average boxer weight in Klitschko (combined) era, 225lbs. Similar records. Look similarly good on film. Sorry but I personally see no clear advantage of either era!

Lewis, Bowe, Tyson, Holyfield from 1990’s v your top 4 2010?

Wladimir Klitschko
Vitali Klitschko
David Haye
Bermane Stiverne.

You picked 4 boxers from a span of 10 years, I picked 4 from a span of 4 years. And I see no clear dominance I'm sorry!

stiverne? i thought that even you wouldnt stoop that low...i shouldnt have assumed that though.

Yes I am shocked that he thinks Haye and Stiverne be mentioned in the same breath as my 4 but he is scraping the barrel and could not think of anyone else. I would have been embarrassed and stopped typing.

As a matter of fact it took me 5 seconds to come up with those 2.

Do you really think that Bermane Stiverne and David Haye could not match Tyson and Holyfield?

Michael Moorer beat Holyfield among about 9 others. Andrew Golota beat up Bowe 2ce, Tyson was bashed by Williams, McBride and Buster. LEwis was wasted by Rahman and McCall.

It's in fact YOU making baseless assumptions portraying that Stiverne and Haye would not be ELITE opponents in the 90's!

[Master]

You are funny Max very funny. I am beginning to think you are taking the piss now. Are you serious!

Do you not see how stupid your posts are? Really?

Come on now.

[Max Power]

You are funny Max very funny. I am beginning to think you are taking the piss now. Are you serious!

Do you not see how stupid your posts are? Really?

Come on now.

No really let's consider this, Stiverne is probably a harder puncher than any of the 4 you picked. He also has quick hands and is a natural counter-puncher, this is no bum.

Your Riddick Bowe ducked ALL hard punchers (bar Golota who spanked him). And he was easy to hit. I mean the reason we consider his inside game good, is basically because he was so defensively poor and lax as an outfighter that he was always breached. Luckily he had a solid chin but so has Stiverne! It's 100% that Bermane will be banging on that chin hard, Bowe, who WAS dropped by featherfist Holyfield, see where I'm going?

I am sensationalising here, but it is equally plausible as you sensationalising Bowe.

If Bowe fought Bermane and won, it would be heralded as one of his best wins and you know it!

We can continue further examples of how you can spin it the other way too for a different combination.

I would have loved to see these fights because they are all excellent and dangerous boxers! By ANY criteria!

[Master]

You are funny Max very funny. I am beginning to think you are taking the piss now. Are you serious!

Do you not see how stupid your posts are? Really?

Come on now.

No really let's consider this, Stiverne is probably a harder puncher than any of the 4 you picked. He also has quick hands and is a natural counter-puncher, this is no bum.

Your Riddick Bowe ducked ALL hard punchers (bar Golota who spanked him). And he was easy to hit. I mean the reason we consider his inside game good, is basically because he was so defensively poor and lax as an outfighter that he was always breached. Luckily he had a solid chin but so has Stiverne! It's 100% that Bermane will be banging on that chin hard, Bowe, who WAS dropped by featherfist Holyfield, see where I'm going?

I am sensationalising here, but it is equally plausible as you sensationalising Bowe.

If Bowe fought Bermane and won, it would be heralded as one of his best wins and you know it!

We can continue further examples of how you can spin it the other way too for a different combination.

I would have loved to see these fights because they are all excellent and dangerous boxers! By ANY criteria!

Stiverne is a born again Dokes. Remember what Bowe did to him. 2 rounds!

[Max Power]

You are funny Max very funny. I am beginning to think you are taking the piss now. Are you serious!

Do you not see how stupid your posts are? Really?

Come on now.

No really let's consider this, Stiverne is probably a harder puncher than any of the 4 you picked. He also has quick hands and is a natural counter-puncher, this is no bum.

Your Riddick Bowe ducked ALL hard punchers (bar Golota who spanked him). And he was easy to hit. I mean the reason we consider his inside game good, is basically because he was so defensively poor and lax as an outfighter that he was always breached. Luckily he had a solid chin but so has Stiverne! It's 100% that Bermane will be banging on that chin hard, Bowe, who WAS dropped by featherfist Holyfield, see where I'm going?

I am sensationalising here, but it is equally plausible as you sensationalising Bowe.

If Bowe fought Bermane and won, it would be heralded as one of his best wins and you know it!

We can continue further examples of how you can spin it the other way too for a different combination.

I would have loved to see these fights because they are all excellent and dangerous boxers! By ANY criteria!

Stiverne is a born again Dokes. Remember what Bowe did to him. 2 rounds!

Haha, I mention Bermane Stiverne, one of the hardest hitters of all time.

And you mention Dokes, borderline featherfist with a 50-60% KO ratio against a much lighter AND bummier class of opposition than Bermane and suffered 5 KO losses to all the good opponents he faced, but even one less than desirable to Gerrie Coetzee.

Unbelievable!

[ruthless rocco]

Do you really think that Bermane Stiverne and David Haye could not match Tyson and Holyfield?

HAhahaHAHAHahaHaHHAhah!!!!

How stupid are you!?

His sole criteria for choosing those four fighters was that none of them are American.
Frankly I'm surprised he could bring himself to choose two black fighters, because by doing so he's going against his whole racial profiling angle...but I guess he's okay with it since neither one is African American.

[Max Power]

Do you really think that Bermane Stiverne and David Haye could not match Tyson and Holyfield?

HAhahaHAHAHahaHaHHAhah!!!!

How stupid are you!?

His sole criteria for choosing those four fighters was that none of them are American.
Frankly I'm surprised he could bring himself to choose two black fighters, because by doing so he's going against his whole racial profiling angle...but I guess he's okay with it since neither one is African American.

Stiverne is native Central American and Canada is in the American continent. And Stiverne and Haye are black.

This should serve obviously as a proof that I don't CARE if a fighter is black or white. And I don't CARE if a fighter is American, Russian, or even fucking Chinese! I also don't care if the fighter is heavy or light, tall or short, lean or fat!

And more than anything I DEFINITELY don't care if the boxer is hyped or not or if they are FAMOUS or not in America!

I only care about their ACTUAL QUALITY as boxers!

Jennings, Perez, Wilder and Thompson are top quality boxers by my own admission and are black and American. "I" support them BETTER than YOU even do and they're from your own race and country!

Who is the nationalist? Who is the racist?

[ruthless rocco]

Do you really think that Bermane Stiverne and David Haye could not match Tyson and Holyfield?

HAhahaHAHAHahaHaHHAhah!!!!

How stupid are you!?

His sole criteria for choosing those four fighters was that none of them are American.
Frankly I'm surprised he could bring himself to choose two black fighters, because by doing so he's going against his whole racial profiling angle...but I guess he's okay with it since neither one is African American.

Stiverne is native Central American and Canada is in the American continent. And Stiverne and Haye are black.

This should serve obviously as a proof that I don't CARE if a fighter is black or white. And I don't CARE if a fighter is American, Russian, or even fucking Chinese! I also don't care if the fighter is heavy or light, tall or short, lean or fat!

And more than anything I DEFINITELY don't care if the boxer is hyped or not or if they are FAMOUS or not in America!

I only care about their ACTUAL QUALITY as boxers!

Jennings, Perez, Wilder and Thompson are top quality boxers by my own admission and are black and American. "I" support them BETTER than YOU even do and they're from your own race and country!

Who is the nationalist? Who is the racist?

You really are that dumb huh?

My whole point was that you chose them because they AREN'T American, then you go on to tell me how they aren't American.

So so stupid...

Also, last time I checked (a minute ago) I wasn't either black or American you idiotic fucktard!

No wonder your baby's momma doesn't want to bang you anymore. It's amazing you got her to in the first place.

[walrus]

I haven't seen battles like this since me and Miles were enemies.

[Max Power]

Do you really think that Bermane Stiverne and David Haye could not match Tyson and Holyfield?

HAhahaHAHAHahaHaHHAhah!!!!

How stupid are you!?

His sole criteria for choosing those four fighters was that none of them are American.
Frankly I'm surprised he could bring himself to choose two black fighters, because by doing so he's going against his whole racial profiling angle...but I guess he's okay with it since neither one is African American.

Stiverne is native Central American and Canada is in the American continent. And Stiverne and Haye are black.

This should serve obviously as a proof that I don't CARE if a fighter is black or white. And I don't CARE if a fighter is American, Russian, or even fucking Chinese! I also don't care if the fighter is heavy or light, tall or short, lean or fat!

And more than anything I DEFINITELY don't care if the boxer is hyped or not or if they are FAMOUS or not in America!

I only care about their ACTUAL QUALITY as boxers!

Jennings, Perez, Wilder and Thompson are top quality boxers by my own admission and are black and American. "I" support them BETTER than YOU even do and they're from your own race and country!

Who is the nationalist? Who is the racist?

You really are that dumb huh?

My whole point was that you chose them because they AREN'T American, then you go on to tell me how they aren't American.

So so stupid...

Also, last time I checked (a minute ago) I wasn't either black or American you idiotic fucktard!

No wonder your baby's momma doesn't want to bang you anymore. It's amazing you got her to in the first place.

Actually I can tell you immediately right now that I chose those boxers immediately off the top of my head and you cannot disprove otherwise.

But we don't have to argue about this...

We can have it your way and allow me to select an American boxer...

What about Deontay Wilder.

I know. Wilder. The most famous bum beater since Butterbean and Sonny Liston.

Can you honestly be SURE that Iron Mike, Big Daddy, The Real Deal or The Lion can DEFINITELY expose Wilder?

You know I believe there are great chances any of them would.

But I also know that that kind of assessment is anything BUT assured. Because none of them faced such a unique kind of opponent as Wilder. And they were all pasted by lesser boxers than Wilder at some stage!