Russell Brand: Hero or Zero?

[AdamGB]

I like Brand. He actually joins demonstrations and takes action. He is not just words and I rate him for having the courage of his convictions and saying how it is.

Demonstrations are important to Brand, unless he wants to go and hang out with David Walliams and Jimmy Carr at a Musical Theatre launch party. Then it's OK to just 'show your face' for appearances sake and then leave.

[Master]

I like Brand. He actually joins demonstrations and takes action. He is not just words and I rate him for having the courage of his convictions and saying how it is.

Demonstrations are important to Brand, unless he wants to go and hang out with David Walliams and Jimmy Carr at a Musical Theatre launch party. Then it's OK to just 'show your face' for appearances sake and then leave.

At least he has the balls to stand out and demonstrate and can go on Question Time and take on politicians. That takes bottle.

[Kirkland Laing]

We don't need a revolution. We'd possibly end up with even bigger crooks in charge if we did.

We need a truth and reconciliation commission. They had one of these to wind up apartheid-era South Africa. Basically the apartheid regime was such a gigantic criminal enterprise that they would have had to send tens of thousands of politicians and police and so on to prison.

So they held televised hearings where they admitted their guilt and what they'd done. They all had amnesty provided they all told the truth.

We need to do that here. Get all former government ministers in to say yeah, I gave billions in contracts to XYZ corp. and got a seat on the board for twenty years in return. I'll give the money back and just live off my pension. And XYZ get fined and have to return the amount of money they robbed from the state. Hedge funds and their dodgy PFI deals all have to hand the goodies back and so on and so on.

A nice understated British revolution.

Russel Brand. His heart is in the right place but he's not very good at doing what he's trying to do. He should have done a lot of reading and talking to knowledgeable people before he started doing what he's doing.

[Master]

We don't need a revolution. We'd possibly end up with even bigger crooks in charge if we did.

We need a truth and reconciliation commission. They had one of these to wind up apartheid-era South Africa. Basically the apartheid regime was such a gigantic criminal enterprise that they would have had to send tens of thousands of politicians and police and so on to prison.

So they held televised hearings where they admitted their guilt and what they'd done. They all had amnesty provided they all told the truth.

We need to do that here. Get all former government ministers in to say yeah, I gave billions in contracts to XYZ corp. and got a seat on the board for twenty years in return. I'll give the money back and just live off my pension. And XYZ get fined and have to return the amount of money they robbed from the state. Hedge funds and their dodgy PFI deals all have to hand the goodies back and so on and so on.

A nice understated British revolution.

Russel Brand. His heart is in the right place but he's not very good at doing what he's trying to do. He should have done a lot of reading and talking to knowledgeable people before he started doing what he's doing.

That is a cracking idea. You should stand in the next general election!

[El Kabong]

Russell Brand is a jackass!



He's a cunt and someone should smash his face in with a brick


"I'm not here to talk about my rent mate"

Hey twat you either are down for Socialism and live like it or you're a fucking hypocrite of the highest order! How much do tickets to your shows go for? How much do your dvds cost? How much for your cds? How much for your book of drivel? Fuck Brand and fuck everyone that likes him....he's a jackass

[AdamGB]

I like Brand. He actually joins demonstrations and takes action. He is not just words and I rate him for having the courage of his convictions and saying how it is.

Demonstrations are important to Brand, unless he wants to go and hang out with David Walliams and Jimmy Carr at a Musical Theatre launch party. Then it's OK to just 'show your face' for appearances sake and then leave.

At least he has the balls to stand out and demonstrate and can go on Question Time and take on politicians. That takes bottle.

He's just doing a gig, his book isn't going to sell itself.
He's not active, he's full of empty rhetoric... Not solutions.
Don't give me that 'he's bringing awareness to issues lark', that's his attitude and it's condescending to his audience, it's nothing any adult with half a brain doesn't already know.

[Master]

Since when was it disallowed for socialist to earn a living?

It is not publicity it is real concern.

I wish other "stars" would stand up for what they believe in.

[roberto duran legend]

He is neither. Just simply a cunt.

[El Kabong]

Since when was it disallowed for socialist to earn a living?

It is not publicity it is real concern.

I wish other "stars" would stand up for what they believe in.

#1 He's not practicing what he's preaching.

#2 If he was actually living as a socialist it wouldn't be publicity

#3 Why? These famous people are the dope heads who never finished high school...actors, comedians, musicians...the vast majority of the super famous know NOTHING of real life. Oprah Winfrey didn't know how to fill her car with gas....that's just how out of touch she is. She went from food stamps to billionaire so quick that every day use of a car is something foreign to her.

And I'm sorry I REFUSE to be preached to by a millionaire comedian about how great socialism is....go tell it to the millions Mao starved or the millions Stalin starved.



Russell Brand is a dolt

[Master]

Brand is not a socialist and never claimed to be.

[roberto duran legend]

Champagne socialist.

[El Kabong]

Brand is not a socialist and never claimed to be.

Socialist/Egalitarian/Massive Redistribution of Wealth/Heavy Taxation of corporations

"I say profit is a filthy word!" - Russell Brand



But you were saying?

[AdamGB]

Since when was it disallowed for socialist to earn a living?

It is not publicity it is real concern.

I wish other "stars" would stand up for what they believe in.

If his book is about putting out a message to the proletariat, why sell it (let alone with a £20 RPP via shops you call to boycott)?

It's 2014, everybody has access to a virtually free printing press (the internet), why profeteer your anti capitalist manifesto, unless you are not 100% sincere.

If he's going to distribute it physically, why not use some of his fortune? Or at least self publish... Instead he's getting it published by a corporate publisher and it's being distributed by the likes of Walmart.

Getting into bed with those people goes against what he is projecting his ethics as and isn't required at all to spread his message, but I guess his bottom line would be lower.

He's not getting in the trenches when demostrations get messy... He's showing his face at peaceful protests and in some cases fucking off after 20 minutes to go to celebrity parties.

His suggestion of not voting is idiotic... Politicians pander to whom ever they can get votes from - wealthy retirees, landlords etc are already the majority of the ones voting... Our generation is getting fucked over and having polticians only worry about keeping happy the very people brand is against is counterproductive, to say the least.

We're ignored enough as it is.

Not only is Brand a millionare, he has had to do relatively little to get there, he certainatly has never lived or worked for years in a way that most of us have to.

No wonder he is so naive and condescending in his 'enlightening' of us proles...

[Gandalf]

A bit sad that the thread is ending this way. Brand is doing a lot in local issues and he is able to break down the absurdity of the media very well. There is a lot of hate because he has money, is a comedian, and sells books in supermarkets, but do you agree with the message? Okay, you say he is a cunt, but does he say something that resonates? I think it does and Brand is giving it a shot. It can cause no harm.

Kirklands ideas are well and good, but will never happen. This elite will never atone and thus revolution is the only answer. It doesn't mean blood, but proper anarchy. People taking control of their working environments in collectives. The City of London probably has to go. Can anyone imagine Blair saying sorry like a good boy? Me neither, stick him in The Hague. Deal with them all properly. If people would just stick together, it wouldn't take much to get these people out. It really wouldn't.

[El Kabong]

Fuck no I don't agree with what he says. You want to take revenge on the elite...for what? If you peons were elite I'm certain you'd be worse than the people who have the majority of the wealth right now why? Well look at the countless revolutions, look at the countless times socialism was tried....you know what profits they reaped? Poverty, death, injustice...on a scale unimaginable to most and yet you lot bellyache over Capitalism which pulled the average man out of the muck and mire of true poverty. Sissy ass socialists....if only you lot were an endangered species