Sydney Seige

[ryanman]

Islam once again declares war on the civilised world. When do we take it seriously.
No muslims condemn it so we can only deduce that they agree with it.

By the same token, why aren't Bush and Blair in The Hague? How can the Muslim world take us seriously? An invasion of nations or isolated acts of revenge? The invasion is illegal and the revenge a consequence of the the invasion. The thug that started the riot is ultimately responsible. This is blowback. It isn't right or proper, but is the natural consequence of illegal invasion, murder, rendition and torture. Using your same logic the lack of outrage by the general public in the West means that we agree with our elite crooks. It doesn't quite work like that though does it Al.

Miles you are confusing ISIS with Muslims that have had genuine grievances.
Remember that ISIS predominately do not exist to fight Western imperialism but to install a caliphate across Syria and Iraq. Also remember that they have killed FAR more Muslims than they have Westerners. They kill Muslims. That is their prey. They only killed Westerners when the bombs dropped (rightly IMO) to stop them killing more.

ISIS do not share an ideology even with other Jihadi groups. Even other Jihadis condemn them. That is pretty powerful and instructive. You used to get Muslims saying about Al Qaeda 'they do not represent Islam' but now you get Jihadi groups saying ISIS 'do not represent Jihad!'. Therefore, I think that framing ISIS as an anti-imperialist anti-western group is not accurate. It's an accurate description of Al Qaeda, but not ISIS.

Having said all that is this guy claiming a connection with ISIS? Or is he just an 'independent' as it were?

[Gandalf]

As far as I can see, Isis is a two pronged Western strategy for a) Eventual dismantling of Assad and b) To ensure control of Iraq having being humiliated after being kicked out of the region. Everything else that comes with it is smoke and mirrors and I would assume ordinary members of Isis are not in on the overall plan. They are just angry Muslims and they have every right to be angry. The caliphate concept is an effective cover. I think people who really study the issue know that Isis is not about anything Muslim, but is rather a terror cell being run by the usual suspects in the shadows. Isis is good for the West for a) propaganda purposes and b) regional control.

It is inevitable that blow back will occur from the invasions, the murder, and torture. It is inevitable that blow back will occur as some will have sympathy with Isis who they mistakenly feel are fighting a Muslim cause. On all sides people are being manipulated. The only solution is The Hague for the war criminals and for the arms industry to stop supplying the terrorists and for mafia groups like the CIA to be abolished. Call me naive, but I think the world might end up a slightly nicer place.

I think the guy is likely just an angry isolated Muslim, but don't know for sure. Also when people criticise Muslims who 'come to our country'.....remember who let them in! The same fuckers that started all this, so when you want to point fingers, go and start your revolution at the appropriate doors. None of this division, us against the immigrants nonsense. Get the rotters that lied and cheated to you, the ordinary Muslim should not have to become an 'Alright Mate' cockney, he is his own person, but the war criminals should be held to account.

Cheney says he would do the torture again. Would you now, you slimy rat? How about we do it on you and get some confessions? However, some of us wouldn't go there, so the least you can do is spend the rest of your vile life in prison, you troll faced skid mark.

[Andre]

Two little kids are now motherless.

Big man hey? A just cause hey? Nope.

A fucking chocolate outlet for a target!!!

Whimp cunt I hope the heat and gravity of middle earth is pulling his soul to pieces.

[smashup]

Not exactly very effective at minimizing hostage damage your lot are they mate, 4 injured, 2 dead.

What i mean is the fact that they are being investigated because it seems they just steamed in spraying bullets all over the place and it was infact them who gunned down some of the hostages, basically they fucked it up royally.

Why was it a "Tactical Operations" police unit and not your special forces who were trained by our SAS boys who went in? - that's a Military Special Forces job and there were enough hours surely to get them ready/send them in?

We had a similar thing in the 80's which you will probably remember well where our SAS went into the Iranian Embassy after the terrorists killed a hostage and threw him out the door.

They went in and killed 5 out of the 6 terrorists in minutes and the one remaining terrorist was jailed for about 30 years.

I'm also shocked this guy who was on bail for being involved in his wifes murder was able to get tooled up and pull this off?

Always had massive respect for what the Australians do to stop illegal immigrants/known criminals just walking into the country like they do here constantly and thought you guys had people like this well under observation.

[Gandalf]

I wouldn't be surprised to find it another Woolwich. Very timely. Though Woolwich was of course.....a governmental lie! And the evidence will spill.

[Beanz]

I wouldn't be surprised to find it another Woolwich. Very timely. Though Woolwich was of course.....a governmental lie! And the evidence will spill.

Grow up and face the horrible truth that there are disturbed individuals in the world whose depravity knows no ends. It is despicable and incredibly weasly and dishonourable of you to suggest that the senseless and barbaric mutilation and murder of a British Soldier is in anyway a useful ruse carried out by the Government when the killers themselves were so brazen and explicit in broadcasting their motivation. You are a heartless bastard who will seemingly stoop incredibly low in order to make himself appear interesting.

[Andre]

Not exactly very effective at minimizing hostage damage your lot are they mate, 4 injured, 2 dead.

What i mean is the fact that they are being investigated because it seems they just steamed in spraying bullets all over the place and it was infact them who gunned down some of the hostages, basically they fucked it up royally.

Why was it a "Tactical Operations" police unit and not your special forces who were trained by our SAS boys who went in? - that's a Military Special Forces job and there were enough hours surely to get them ready/send them in?

We had a similar thing in the 80's which you will probably remember well where our SAS went into the Iranian Embassy after the terrorists killed a hostage and threw him out the door.

They went in and killed 5 out of the 6 terrorists in minutes and the one remaining terrorist was jailed for about 30 years.

I'm also shocked this guy who was on bail for being involved in his wifes murder was able to get tooled up and pull this off?

Always had massive respect for what the Australians do to stop illegal immigrants/known criminals just walking into the country like they do here constantly and thought you guys had people like this well under observation.

Fucking cop mentality mate. Now they are sifting evidence before commenting.

The chick who got hit was a top lawyer seems ironic as some other lawyer got this cunt out on bail from a murder charge!

Could be a police bullet that got her not sure havent heard yet.

The Army offered their team up early cops declined.

That was Sog there I think going on the gear; special operations group.

The head of the Muslums here wanted to go in and talk to the guy Cops declined.

again Cop mentality.

You'd think they would of tried to get someone in there in cognito very early on. Boys would of been putting their hands up all over that show to do that.

Also from the channel 7 news room opposite they were filming the guy within clear head shot available a couple of times and they had a sniper right there next to the camera man as a deal they let him stay and used footage to see what was going on through their 600mmm lens. He could of been taken out noone was behind him either,they only had to remove one payne of glass out of the news room and then the bullet had only the one payne to go through on the other side of the street that the cunt was walking around behind. They didnt do that though,just used the sniper as a reporter.

[ryanman]

Worth merging the two threads on this? Might get a bit repetitive.

[El Kabong]

Worth merging the two threads on this? Might get a bit repetitive.

If it includes miles or Kirkland it'll be repetitive anyway because miles enjoys being the typical self loathing white anarchist provocateur and Kirkland is just a smug cunt

[Andre]

If our goverments subsided all of our cars to be adapted to run off LPG instead of petrol we would remove all power and cash flow from the Eastern Oil nations. Cost is 800 dollars per car to set it up. Again we as the public could do it alone if we got it together. Wont happen though.
You have ask why wont it? Look deeper at what controls you in your perceived freedom? Its Oil based.

[El Kabong]

Call me naive.

I can think of much worse to call you