Will there ever be another Roy Jones?

[VG_Addict]

Why did Roy fade when his speed and reflexes slowed? Was it because he didn't have the fundamentals to fall back on?

[SlimTrae]

Why did Roy fade when his speed and reflexes slowed? Was it because he didn't have the fundamentals to fall back on?

Great question.

[Andre]

Why did Roy fade when his speed and reflexes slowed? Was it because he didn't have the fundamentals to fall back on?

Of course, he was never a tight in balance fighter he went in and thought he could do what he always did which was move when striking and choose angles at will. He couldnt do that as well later carrying weight and less so the older and less fit he got. Where as if he went back to basics he would of had survival skills that would of kept him out of trouble so he could choose when and where to go loopy and all out on someone.

Still loved his style though. Like Naz they were like shooting stars. Nice to behold,erratic,flamboyant , all or nothing, burn out faster. Then theres other stars.

[SlimTrae]

Why did Roy fade when his speed and reflexes slowed? Was it because he didn't have the fundamentals to fall back on?

Of course, he was never a tight in balance fighter he went in and thought he could do what he always did which was move when striking and choose angles at will. He couldnt do that as well later carrying weight and less so the older and less fit he got. Where as if he went back to basics he would of had survival skills that would of kept him out of trouble so he could choose when and where to go loopy and all out on someone.

Still loved his style though. Like Naz they were like shooting stars. Nice to behold,erratic,flamboyant , all or nothing, burn out faster. Then theres other stars.

Great points.
Question do you remember when RJJ was accussed of taking roids? androstenedione, is contained in GNC's Ripped Fuel. I think he tested positive once.
I wonder, because RJJ only had one stoppage of note IMO afterwards- Harding, after that maybe two stoppages in ten years?

I believe in the common saying (the last thing to leave is one's power) his physique softened and he doesnt eat bad food, doesnt do drugs or alcohol. So he lost his muscle mass, physique and his youth succumbed to father time leaving RJJ with...

[VG_Addict]

What do you think would have happened if Roy learned the fundamentals? Would he have had more success after the Ruiz fight?

I mean, Ali was able to adapt when his speed faded. Floyd adjusted his style when he moved up to the higher weights.

[SlimTrae]

What do you think would have happened if Roy learned the fundamentals? Would he have had more success after the Ruiz fight?

Point noted. Above I questioned how his body deteriorated post use of Ripped Fuel, but my badd you just made me remember he went in thick as a CW fighting a HW. Could it have really just been the drastic weight loss to move back down to fight Tarver that hurt him more than anything?

[fan johnny]

Naw, Appearently Jr. didn't turn out the same as Sr. Jr. kids are going into hip hop no Jr. III's for the ring.

Roy Jones Jr.'s boys keep it real on the farm - ESPN

[Beanflicker]

I like how people bring up the fact that he got whipped when he got older as some kind of proof that he had no skills and was all athletics.

Have you people seen SRR past 35? Pernell Whitaker? Ray Leonard?

[Andre]

I like how people bring up the fact that he got whipped when he got older as some kind of proof that he had no skills and was all athletics.

Have you people seen SRR past 35? Pernell Whitaker? Ray Leonard?

Think you are taking it to the extreme, no one is saying NO skills.

I think he had outrageous skills. Ones others could'nt deal with, but they were limited and tied to his fitness and reflexes that is all.

[Beanflicker]

Think you are taking it to the extreme, no one is saying NO skills.

I think he had outrageous skills. Ones others could'nt deal with, but they were limited and tied to his fitness and reflexes that is all.

I get what people are saying, Roy got used to being the fastest, smartest guy in the ring and the style that he developed depended on him being the athletic marvel he was. I just get irked when people insinuate that he never had the skills to begin with, or that he was technically flawed and just used his athleticism to carry him.

Guys who try to get by on their athletics get exposed quick on the world stage, we all know that. They don't win gold medals and go 15 years as an undefeated p4p great. Not saying that's what you're saying, but I see a lot of people saying that kind of shit. And you know what?? THEY MUSTA FORGOT

[Beanflicker]

[Andre]

Think you are taking it to the extreme, no one is saying NO skills.

I think he had outrageous skills. Ones others could'nt deal with, but they were limited and tied to his fitness and reflexes that is all.

I get what people are saying, Roy got used to being the fastest, smartest guy in the ring and the style that he developed depended on him being the athletic marvel he was. I just get irked when people insinuate that he never had the skills to begin with, or that he was technically flawed and just used his athleticism to carry him.

Guys who try to get by on their athletics get exposed quick on the world stage, we all know that. They don't win gold medals and go 15 years as an undefeated p4p great. Not saying that's what you're saying, but I see a lot of people saying that kind of shit. And you know what?? THEY MUSTA FORGOT

Yeah for sure , I think what Greynotsoold and others agree on is that technically the style wouldnt hold up on its own.

[Beanflicker]

Yeah for sure , I think what Greynotsoold and others agree on is that technically the style wouldnt hold up on its own.

I can dig that.