Alexander Povetkin- the best of the best!

[ross]

Alexander Povetkin would be top contender in the 90's. He would have been a titlist. He would have fought on equal footing with Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield and provided serious competition for Lennox Lewis.

Alexander Povetkin would have been the best opponent Mike Tyson ever faced in the 1980's, and would have beaten Larry Holmes soundly imo.

Alexander Povetkin would have been undisputed champion from the 1970's backwards virtually unchallenged.

The same Alexander Povetkin who couldn't stop a cruiserweight?

The same cruiserweight that Steve Cunningham stopped?

Dopey...

[Silkeyjoe]

Alexander Povetkin would be top contender in the 90's. He would have been a titlist. He would have fought on equal footing with Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield and provided serious competition for Lennox Lewis.

Alexander Povetkin would have been the best opponent Mike Tyson ever faced in the 1980's, and would have beaten Larry Holmes soundly imo.

Alexander Povetkin would have been undisputed champion from the 1970's backwards virtually unchallenged.

The same Alexander Povetkin who couldn't stop a cruiserweight?

The same cruiserweight that Steve Cunningham stopped?

Dopey...

This logic is retarded. Do you not see it? Fury couldnt stop Mrazek, the same Mrazek who was stopped Viera, Perez ... Fury is shit.

Povetkin is a very good boxer and his standard of opposition has been pretty decent compared to a lot of other hyped heavies.

[Max Power]

Alexander Povetkin would be top contender in the 90's. He would have been a titlist. He would have fought on equal footing with Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield and provided serious competition for Lennox Lewis.

Alexander Povetkin would have been the best opponent Mike Tyson ever faced in the 1980's, and would have beaten Larry Holmes soundly imo.

Alexander Povetkin would have been undisputed champion from the 1970's backwards virtually unchallenged.

The same Alexander Povetkin who couldn't stop a cruiserweight?

The same cruiserweight that Steve Cunningham stopped?

Dopey...

Simple...

Aside from your triangle theory being irrelevant in the real world...

It's only when you view Steve Cunningham and MArco Huck as what in previous times WERE REAL HW's, and only when you view Marco Huck and Steve Cunningham's records as what would then have been considered real HW records and only when you view Huck and Cunningham themselves as probably better than anything else in previous eras themselves, does everything magically fall into place and Povetkin is to be considered on his proper merits.

[Master]

Alexander Povetkin would be top contender in the 90's. He would have been a titlist. He would have fought on equal footing with Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield and provided serious competition for Lennox Lewis.

Alexander Povetkin would have been the best opponent Mike Tyson ever faced in the 1980's, and would have beaten Larry Holmes soundly imo.

Alexander Povetkin would have been undisputed champion from the 1970's backwards virtually unchallenged.

The same Alexander Povetkin who couldn't stop a cruiserweight?

The same cruiserweight that Steve Cunningham stopped?

Dopey...

Simple...

Aside from your triangle theory being irrelevant in the real world...

It's only when you view Steve Cunningham and MArco Huck as what in previous times WERE REAL HW's, and only when you view Marco Huck and Steve Cunningham's records as what would then have been considered real HW records and only when you view Huck and Cunningham themselves as probably better than anything else in previous eras themselves, does everything magically fall into place and Povetkin is to be considered on his proper merits.

Povetkin will be considered on his proper merits which is what he achieves in his life time not anyone elses. If he does not achieve much now then you can not say he would have been champion in 1990 unless you have a delorean.

[Max Power]

Alexander Povetkin would be top contender in the 90's. He would have been a titlist. He would have fought on equal footing with Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield and provided serious competition for Lennox Lewis.

Alexander Povetkin would have been the best opponent Mike Tyson ever faced in the 1980's, and would have beaten Larry Holmes soundly imo.

Alexander Povetkin would have been undisputed champion from the 1970's backwards virtually unchallenged.

The same Alexander Povetkin who couldn't stop a cruiserweight?

The same cruiserweight that Steve Cunningham stopped?

Dopey...

Simple...

Aside from your triangle theory being irrelevant in the real world...

It's only when you view Steve Cunningham and MArco Huck as what in previous times WERE REAL HW's, and only when you view Marco Huck and Steve Cunningham's records as what would then have been considered real HW records and only when you view Huck and Cunningham themselves as probably better than anything else in previous eras themselves, does everything magically fall into place and Povetkin is to be considered on his proper merits.

Povetkin will be considered on his proper merits which is what he achieves in his life time not anyone elses. If he does not achieve much now then you can not say he would have been champion in 1990 unless you have a delorean.

Agreed.

One of those rare moments that I can in fact agree here.

I will judge Alexander Povetkin on the merits of what he achieves in his own era period and will not claim that he could have done this and that in the 90's.

And on the upside here, your friends also cannot make claims that some of those 90's fighters would have trumped Povetkin in this era unless they also have a DeLorean.

Fair is fair!

[Master]

Alexander Povetkin - the best of the rest says it all mate.

[ross]

Alexander Povetkin would be top contender in the 90's. He would have been a titlist. He would have fought on equal footing with Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield and provided serious competition for Lennox Lewis.

Alexander Povetkin would have been the best opponent Mike Tyson ever faced in the 1980's, and would have beaten Larry Holmes soundly imo.

Alexander Povetkin would have been undisputed champion from the 1970's backwards virtually unchallenged.

The same Alexander Povetkin who couldn't stop a cruiserweight?

The same cruiserweight that Steve Cunningham stopped?

Dopey...

Simple...

Aside from your triangle theory being irrelevant in the real world...

It's only when you view Steve Cunningham and MArco Huck as what in previous times WERE REAL HW's, and only when you view Marco Huck and Steve Cunningham's records as what would then have been considered real HW records and only when you view Huck and Cunningham themselves as probably better than anything else in previous eras themselves, does everything magically fall into place and Povetkin is to be considered on his proper merits.

What happened to Bob foster when he moved up?

He didnt nearly stop Ali or Fazier or get a draw on one scorecard. He was wiped out

[Max Power]

Answer is blatantly obvious...

Marco Huck was 210lbs when he fought Povetkin, he was a HW.

Bob Foster was 180lbs when he fought Ali. He was smaller than even the LHW's today after they rehydrate.

There is no comparison between Bob Foster and MArco Huck.

The correct comparison is between Bob Foster and say Sergei Kovalev or even GGG. It then becomes obvious that these guys would provide better competition to Ali or Povetkin than would Bob Foster.

Foster is a proof of how bad Muhammad's opponents were, which you somehow try to flip around and use as a proof of how limited Povetkin is by comparing to Huck? Do your math, it doesn't cut the mustard!

[Master]

Who was greater and will be remembered more Huck at cruiserweight or Foster at light heavyweight?

[ykdadamaja]

I would say Huck at Cruiserweight at this stage... Foster was good, but Huck's fights will go down as legendary, for the most part and when it is all said and done.

The REAL fight I want to see is: MARCO HUCK VS. ADONIS STEVENSON!!!

What a fecking fight that would be, huh

[Max Power]

Who was greater and will be remembered more Huck at cruiserweight or Foster at light heavyweight?

Dude when I first heard about Foster, I didn't even know who he was. I even had to look him up again to remember this time!

Who in the world who is not a hundred years old boxing aficionado is going to remember Bob Foster?

I would say Marco Huck is going to be remembered for a long time, especially in Europe where he is held as testament to European superiority, especially in the heftier divisions of boxing. Not likely to be forgotten in the West either, since such luminary boxers have to be ACTIVELY suppressed. The negative publicity however you try to give them however actually helps to ensure everyone DOES remember their name equally! Which is why your fighting an unwinnable battle.

OTNB is facing extinction, might as well jump off the bandwagon and let it go my friend.

I already provided you with a thread giving you a way to have your own way peacefully "How to properly honour boing history" lol

[brocktonblockbust]

Hey. You're predictions are just as much subjective as mine. Nobody will ever know. But Willard would win at least 4 rounds against Adamek, and hurt him in a couple clinches inside too. Those men could fight 25-30 rounds with broken bones, no neutral corner. The clowns you champion are totally winded after ten rounds. Sam Huffin & Puffin Peters, Wladimir Gaspin For Breath Klitschko, David Hurt Lil' Pinky Toe Haye, Odlanir "Ow My Calf Muscle" Solis. Etc

[Max Power]

Hey. You're predictions are just as much subjective as mine. Nobody will ever know. But Willard would win at least 4 rounds against Adamek, and hurt him in a couple clinches inside too. Those men could fight 25-30 rounds with broken bones, no neutral corner. The clowns you champion are totally winded after ten rounds. Sam Huffin & Puffin Peters, Wladimir Gaspin For Breath Klitschko, David Hurt Lil' Pinky Toe Haye, Odlanir "Ow My Calf Muscle" Solis. Etc

I have already shown multiple occasions that such overlong fights were ALWAYS a rarity.

In fact in the history of boxing, approx. 70,000 fights, approximately only 1,600, 2%! went 13+ rounds, 13+!!!

Of those old boxers that fought these 20 odd rounders, they only each fought negligible of them also!

The lighter the boxer, the more rounds they can fight,

Any boxer can fight any number of rounds no matter the conditioning or the size by pacing.

Todays 12 rounders fight harder and are better conditioned than any of those ancient jokers

The more overlong fights, the more featherfisted the boxers in them.

But most importantly...

25 rounds, IS A SIGN OF FAILURE. Failure to win by KO! It means that the plan has failed! Whether the plan was wrong, or your opponent was able to thwart it does not matter.

You take a NEGATIVE feature of the drunken era of boxing and turn it into a virtue.

Myth exposed!

[brocktonblockbust]

Hey. You're predictions are just as much subjective as mine. Nobody will ever know. But Willard would win at least 4 rounds against Adamek, and hurt him in a couple clinches inside too. Those men could fight 25-30 rounds with broken bones, no neutral corner. The clowns you champion are totally winded after ten rounds. Sam Huffin & Puffin Peters, Wladimir Gaspin For Breath Klitschko, David Hurt Lil' Pinky Toe Haye, Odlanir "Ow My Calf Muscle" Solis. Etc

I have already shown multiple occasions that such overlong fights were ALWAYS a rarity.

In fact in the history of boxing, approx. 70,000 fights, approximately only 1,600, 2%! went 13+ rounds, 13+!!!

Of those old boxers that fought these 20 odd rounders, they only each fought negligible of them also!

The lighter the boxer, the more rounds they can fight,

Any boxer can fight any number of rounds no matter the conditioning or the size by pacing.

Todays 12 rounders fight harder and are better conditioned than any of those ancient jokers

The more overlong fights, the more featherfisted the boxers in them.

But most importantly...

25 rounds, IS A SIGN OF FAILURE. Failure to win by KO! It means that the plan has failed! Whether the plan was wrong, or your opponent was able to thwart it does not matter.

You take a NEGATIVE feature of the drunken era of boxing and turn it into a virtue.

Myth exposed!

Here is my last word on this matter or any other delusional matter you are on about:

You are entitled to your own opinion. PERIOD.