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    Default Re: How would you rate Pacquaio in the ATG if he beats Mayweather?

    Oddly enough it does not change his standing in my view because of the when. The reverse is also the case. Manny is a first ballet Hall of Famer, arguably the best Asian fighter that ever lived and a top 25 ATG regardless of nationality.

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    Default Re: How would you rate Pacquaio in the ATG if he beats Mayweather?

    It would be a HUGE notch in his belt obviously.

    If the fight had happened in 2010, the winner would have been the biggest thing in boxing history without question IMHO.

    Now, it's just not the same because both guys are at the end of their careers. I think their legacies have already been written, they are just coming down the home stretch now.

    No matter who wins, it'll never recapture what was lost in 2009/2010.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    It would be a HUGE notch in his belt obviously.

    If the fight had happened in 2010, the winner would have been the biggest thing in boxing history without question IMHO.

    Now, it's just not the same because both guys are at the end of their careers. I think their legacies have already been written, they are just coming down the home stretch now.

    No matter who wins, it'll never recapture what was lost in 2009/2010.
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    I agree. Pac is no longer the same. He is 37 now if I am not mistaken. Arguably, no longer in his prime considering the many battles that he had gone through. I have just watched again his 2nd fight with Morales and I believe because of Pac's all out fighting style, it may have taken a toll on his health and physical abilities. I have just realized that he was at 128 lbs when he had his 2nd fight with Morales which was supposed to be at 130 lbs. The jumps he made ( against Hatton, Cotto, Margarito, etc) really makes him one of a kind but it has its repercussion in the end. After his fight against Cotto who was naturally bigger than him, Pac may have started to decline without us noticing it because he became a more complete boxer. Nevertheless, his fight with Mayweather ,if it happens, will still be very exciting for me.

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    It'll be exciting for everyone I think, I'll definitely watch it.

    I think that no matter who wins, there'll always be that debate as to what would have happened in 2010 when both guys were seemingly at their peak.
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    Default Re: How would you rate Pacquaio in the ATG if he beats Mayweather?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    It'll be exciting for everyone I think, I'll definitely watch it.

    I think that no matter who wins, there'll always be that debate as to what would have happened in 2010 when both guys were seemingly at their peak.
    I agree with you no matter what happens now people will always go back and say the fight didnt happen when it should have. And going back to each of their careers, both are ATG and and first ballet Hall Of Famers but there will always be the question of why they didn't fight while each one was at fault at one point or another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maravilla2012 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    It'll be exciting for everyone I think, I'll definitely watch it.

    I think that no matter who wins, there'll always be that debate as to what would have happened in 2010 when both guys were seemingly at their peak.
    I agree with you no matter what happens now people will always go back and say the fight didnt happen when it should have. And going back to each of their careers, both are ATG and and first ballet Hall Of Famers but there will always be the question of why they didn't fight while each one was at fault at one point or another.
    That has been the unfortunate truth for quite some time if people from both sides are honest with themselves. Its still relevant because of how economically huge it is but purely on legacy, a loss or win does not make or break a thing on either side.

    I've often wondered how Robinson would have fared against a prime Armstrong. I'm a fan of both men and consider that loss on Armstrongs ledger about as much as I do the victory on Ray's. Not very much. Now this is not the same thing as Manny/Floyd although on the slide are much closer to equality then the Ray/Hank example but its on the same side of the page.

    Anybody in boxing circles who claims they would not look forward to and watch the fight is a liar but the crow that would be attempted to be served afterward by the winning side would be unjustifiable given all the facts.

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    Default Re: How would you rate Pacquaio in the ATG if he beats Mayweather?

    I would love Manny forever if he beats Floyd and he would be on my atg list.
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