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    Default Re: Alexander Povetkin- the best of the best!

    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
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    Alexander Povetkin would be top contender in the 90's. He would have been a titlist. He would have fought on equal footing with Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield and provided serious competition for Lennox Lewis.

    Alexander Povetkin would have been the best opponent Mike Tyson ever faced in the 1980's, and would have beaten Larry Holmes soundly imo.

    Alexander Povetkin would have been undisputed champion from the 1970's backwards virtually unchallenged.
    The same Alexander Povetkin who couldn't stop a cruiserweight?

    The same cruiserweight that Steve Cunningham stopped?

    Dopey...
    Simple...

    Aside from your triangle theory being irrelevant in the real world...

    It's only when you view Steve Cunningham and MArco Huck as what in previous times WERE REAL HW's, and only when you view Marco Huck and Steve Cunningham's records as what would then have been considered real HW records and only when you view Huck and Cunningham themselves as probably better than anything else in previous eras themselves, does everything magically fall into place and Povetkin is to be considered on his proper merits.
    What happened to Bob foster when he moved up?

    He didnt nearly stop Ali or Fazier or get a draw on one scorecard. He was wiped out

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    Default Re: Alexander Povetkin- the best of the best!

    Answer is blatantly obvious...

    Marco Huck was 210lbs when he fought Povetkin, he was a HW.

    Bob Foster was 180lbs when he fought Ali. He was smaller than even the LHW's today after they rehydrate.

    There is no comparison between Bob Foster and MArco Huck.

    The correct comparison is between Bob Foster and say Sergei Kovalev or even GGG. It then becomes obvious that these guys would provide better competition to Ali or Povetkin than would Bob Foster.

    Foster is a proof of how bad Muhammad's opponents were, which you somehow try to flip around and use as a proof of how limited Povetkin is by comparing to Huck? Do your math, it doesn't cut the mustard!
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    Default Re: Alexander Povetkin- the best of the best!

    Who was greater and will be remembered more Huck at cruiserweight or Foster at light heavyweight?
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    Default Re: Alexander Povetkin- the best of the best!

    I would say Huck at Cruiserweight at this stage... Foster was good, but Huck's fights will go down as legendary, for the most part and when it is all said and done.

    The REAL fight I want to see is: MARCO HUCK VS. ADONIS STEVENSON!!!

    What a fecking fight that would be, huh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Who was greater and will be remembered more Huck at cruiserweight or Foster at light heavyweight?
    Dude when I first heard about Foster, I didn't even know who he was. I even had to look him up again to remember this time!

    Who in the world who is not a hundred years old boxing aficionado is going to remember Bob Foster?

    I would say Marco Huck is going to be remembered for a long time, especially in Europe where he is held as testament to European superiority, especially in the heftier divisions of boxing. Not likely to be forgotten in the West either, since such luminary boxers have to be ACTIVELY suppressed. The negative publicity however you try to give them however actually helps to ensure everyone DOES remember their name equally! Which is why your fighting an unwinnable battle.

    OTNB is facing extinction, might as well jump off the bandwagon and let it go my friend.

    I already provided you with a thread giving you a way to have your own way peacefully "How to properly honour boing history" lol
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    Hey. You're predictions are just as much subjective as mine. Nobody will ever know. But Willard would win at least 4 rounds against Adamek, and hurt him in a couple clinches inside too. Those men could fight 25-30 rounds with broken bones, no neutral corner. The clowns you champion are totally winded after ten rounds. Sam Huffin & Puffin Peters, Wladimir Gaspin For Breath Klitschko, David Hurt Lil' Pinky Toe Haye, Odlanir "Ow My Calf Muscle" Solis. Etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Hey. You're predictions are just as much subjective as mine. Nobody will ever know. But Willard would win at least 4 rounds against Adamek, and hurt him in a couple clinches inside too. Those men could fight 25-30 rounds with broken bones, no neutral corner. The clowns you champion are totally winded after ten rounds. Sam Huffin & Puffin Peters, Wladimir Gaspin For Breath Klitschko, David Hurt Lil' Pinky Toe Haye, Odlanir "Ow My Calf Muscle" Solis. Etc
    I have already shown multiple occasions that such overlong fights were ALWAYS a rarity.

    In fact in the history of boxing, approx. 70,000 fights, approximately only 1,600, 2%! went 13+ rounds, 13+!!!

    Of those old boxers that fought these 20 odd rounders, they only each fought negligible of them also!

    The lighter the boxer, the more rounds they can fight,

    Any boxer can fight any number of rounds no matter the conditioning or the size by pacing.

    Todays 12 rounders fight harder and are better conditioned than any of those ancient jokers

    The more overlong fights, the more featherfisted the boxers in them.

    But most importantly...

    25 rounds, IS A SIGN OF FAILURE. Failure to win by KO! It means that the plan has failed! Whether the plan was wrong, or your opponent was able to thwart it does not matter.

    You take a NEGATIVE feature of the drunken era of boxing and turn it into a virtue.

    Myth exposed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Hey. You're predictions are just as much subjective as mine. Nobody will ever know. But Willard would win at least 4 rounds against Adamek, and hurt him in a couple clinches inside too. Those men could fight 25-30 rounds with broken bones, no neutral corner. The clowns you champion are totally winded after ten rounds. Sam Huffin & Puffin Peters, Wladimir Gaspin For Breath Klitschko, David Hurt Lil' Pinky Toe Haye, Odlanir "Ow My Calf Muscle" Solis. Etc
    I have already shown multiple occasions that such overlong fights were ALWAYS a rarity.

    In fact in the history of boxing, approx. 70,000 fights, approximately only 1,600, 2%! went 13+ rounds, 13+!!!

    Of those old boxers that fought these 20 odd rounders, they only each fought negligible of them also!

    The lighter the boxer, the more rounds they can fight,

    Any boxer can fight any number of rounds no matter the conditioning or the size by pacing.

    Todays 12 rounders fight harder and are better conditioned than any of those ancient jokers

    The more overlong fights, the more featherfisted the boxers in them.

    But most importantly...

    25 rounds, IS A SIGN OF FAILURE. Failure to win by KO! It means that the plan has failed! Whether the plan was wrong, or your opponent was able to thwart it does not matter.

    You take a NEGATIVE feature of the drunken era of boxing and turn it into a virtue.

    Myth exposed!
    Here is my last word on this matter or any other delusional matter you are on about:

    You are entitled to your own opinion. PERIOD.

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    Default Re: Alexander Povetkin- the best of the best!

    What this person knows about boxing summed up...

    Didn't know who Bob Foster was

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    Default Re: Alexander Povetkin- the best of the best!

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    What this person knows about boxing summed up...

    Didn't know who Bob Foster was
    At some point, nobody knows who any boxer is, you learn of them as you learn of the sport.

    Obviously, Bob Foster plays or would play absolutely zero role in any current or recent evaluation of boxers whatsoever, except as an example of how pathetic the opponents of Ali actually were in fact. Which is why I discovered him late. Other than that is is not particularly famous at all. Certainly not as famous as Huck!

    He is testament to the weakness of an era which is thankfully gone and nothing like it will ever return, unless disease wipes out most of the globe and we must start from scratch
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    Default Re: Alexander Povetkin- the best of the best!

    His opinions suck.

    Period.
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