Samuel Peter replacing Earnie Shavers in the 70's...

[SlimTrae]

Let's do an exercise.

That''s a lot of typing to have not made a single point with. One can only assume, it stands to reason, would have clearly, unimaginable, and not a single breakdown of why in any case? Why do you do this. Your stance on this stuff is just as exclusionary as you could possibly accuse anyone else of being towards older fighters, is that lost on you? How about; If an old fat ex middleweight beat Peter over 12 rounds, then clearly all of those guys could. Unless you actually think James Toney somehow represented the new generation of HWs

Interesting to note that the 70's fighters made the claim Shavers punched hard, (fans accepted those were in the ring with him).
But I am hard pressed to find the line of boxers who fought Peters saying the same.

Peters right hand is looping & choppy, which is why he hit Wlad on the top of the head, same with Toney. Shavers landed his shots flush.

Maskaev & then the Aguilera that Tarver beat are his highlight reel of KO's bar Jeremy Williams. Now that was a knockout, but against a 200lb a weight that some here call CW by todays standards. Or at least I thought Williams fought his amatuer career as a LHW, then got his name recognized by fighting on the reality show: the contender.

Peters overhand right is pretty strong, but to pit him in the 70's era because it landed on maybe 3 or 4 decent fighters flush, wow thats not just a stretch, thats stretch arm strong, stretching...

[VG_Addict]

People think Shavers was robbed against Ali? What?

[Max Power]

People think Shavers was robbed against Ali? What?

It is generally accepted, even among nutbag circles, that Shavers beat Ali.

[Beanflicker]

People think Shavers was robbed against Ali? What?

It is generally accepted, even among nutbag circles, that Shavers beat Ali.

I remember the fight and I thought Ali deserved the nod. Shavers had some good moments but he just couldn't sustain them because he was a shit fighter.

[Beanflicker]

If we could go back in a time machine, bring all those guys in their prime and put them on Sport Science to measure their punching power in PSI, Peter would blow them all out of the water.

Sam Peter would have KTFO all of the bums Earnie rolled, he would have KTFO the washed up Ken Norton that Shavers did, and I'd say he would have whipped a lot of the guys Earnie lost to (Quarry, Cobb, Mercado, ect.)

It's just a different time, different caliber/size athlete. Peter had about 40lbs on those guys, and Sam Peter was a better fighter than Shavers was.