Max you are starting to gibber in order to prove a point. Your argument has no consistency, it's just a meaningless thing you have become fixated on, but to what end? The guys you are dismissing put the shine on a division you are so enamored by and did so with style,character and panache. If they are all bums then the division itself must be a joke and the guys you are bigging up must be we worst than hopeless to not even be able to pick up a trinket. It's the same note again and again and it's getting boring fast.