earnie shavers: the hardest heavyweight puncher ever?

[Mr140]

Ok but what about Lewis he was far bigger well coordinated and knew how to punch. Shavers hit hard but in big fights did not have the hart or stamina to finish like great so the power tad overrated. I mean i feel lewis and Bowie probably hit harder then he did but what ever.

[Master]

Have we not established he was one of the hardest punching heavyweights?

Simple formula

Max says he is not = he is.

[Max Power]

Have we not established he was one of the hardest punching heavyweights?

Simple formula

Max says he is not = he is.

Let's get this straight.

IM NOT DENYING HIS POWER!

Its just ludicrous to believe that a 210lb fighter from 1970 who FAILED to KO heavy and decent opponents in his own era even, could REALLY be one of the hardest, keyword "EST" of punchers.

ESPECIALLY when he never fought the wide array of superheavyweight punchers and other bangers with even better performance stats than he had!

But but but, these other golden era boys said he hit hardest DOE!

Well OBVIOULY these guys are LYING for the reasons outlined, their word is worth less than a drop of piss in the desert once scrutinised AND none of them were ever punched by a more modern slugger to know! (Except Holmes, who was KTFO! Only time ever!)

[Master]

none of them were ever punched by a more modern slugger?

What could they possibly do, get into a Tardis?

[Max Power]

none of them were ever punched by a more modern slugger?

What could they possibly do, get into a Tardis?

LOL Funny but of course not. THAT'S my point!

How can they claim and how can he BE among the hardest punchers.

They can claim, he COULD be one of the hardest punchers THEN. I don't see how it could be successfully argued that he could hit hardest later.

It was your guys here paxtom and Brockton who argued "for ALL time".

I mean let's be honest, in terms of delivery the guy could barely hit a double end bag, he was hopeless. So raw power is what's being considered right?

As you would know raw power, like punching bag power, there are guys in gyms literally EVERYWHERE who are not even proper boxers, who train most of their time simply on the heavybag, obsessed with power as they don't like the pressure of getting hit in sparring etc, aren't competitive and think this compensates somewhat for skills. These guys might not be able to fight a lick compared to a real boxer but they often develop whacking potential in EXCESS of top boxers because it's all they do all day! Helped out these days by roids and protein shakes, even a lot of THESE guys we've never heard of might hit harder.

This point is really no big deal!

The fact is that the guy was not a good boxer, he never WOULD have been a good boxer. He had a punch. Good for him!

[Master]

So many fighters have said it.

Shavers was one dimensional like all big punchers who were not great. He could hit.

Bill said top 5.

[Max Power]

So many fighters have said it.

Shavers was one dimensional like all big punchers who were not great. He could hit.

Bill said top 5.

Yeah we've been through all that.

Bill must be Shavers cousin or something and Brockton his mistress with all their Earnie licking this past week!

As for the fighters...

- They all talk smack
- They all stand to GAIN from making this claim
- They all BEAT Shavers
- They were all knocked down and WASTED by other fighters worse than Shavers

They are OBVIOUSLY lying, and even then..

- You could not REMEMBER the hardest punches! I have been knocked out before, and you DON'T remember the hardest shots because you are CONCUSSED, OBVIOUSLY! It's the LIGHTER shots that hurt more often! Until later when your trying to chew your McDonalds with a mangled jaw LOL