Tyson makes a remark about Wilder.. WIlder fires back... James Toney backs Tyson

[SlimTrae]

I'd like to see wilder succeed but understand he has taken a longer time than usual.
Aside from Russell and Andrade, Wilder is the last from 08 team to face a challenge.

Tyson didn't even make his Olympic team.
Tyson did unify the belts in total dominance.
But:
He unified the titles from an era of boxers who couldn't defend the title twice without losing it.
Why didnt he talk of a rematch when he did lose?? No clause in the contract against Douglass who wasn't even ranked. Who sanctioned that?

And when Tyson's class graduated from the Olympic to pros, he went to jail, so we never saw Tyson against the best of the early 90's:Lewis, Tua,Bowe, Moorer, Ibeabuchi, heck Forman came out of retirement to face Tyson.
So Tyson fought Holmes.
One ranked fighter:Ruddock and Tyson struggled

After prison rather than fight gatekeepers liker Mercer, Cooper, Briggs, Rahman he fought Mcneely and Buster Mathis, former cw orlin norris, Loue Savareese, and a dude named Francis.

And if Wilder had a fight that looked fixed....can't say I disagree, then what about Tyson vs Seldon? Listen to the boos from the crowd when those 2 knockdowns occurred.
No one talks or shows highlight reel from Tyson-Seldon.

Wilder has taken longer than Ward who was coddled, so i can't blame the criticism he garners, but Tyson talking...
Tyson is the most exciting fighter who cleaned out all the bums, then never won a fight against a top ranked fighter in the second part of his career:12years? And never avenged a single loss.

[SlimTrae]

Nowhere do i claim Wilder can beat Tyson.
Nowhere do i claimTyson would've lost all those fights, I'm looking at his career overall and wonder why he has the gaul to claim who Wilder hasnt fought, when he has no answers for who he not only didnt fight, but who he couldn't beat:the best who he fought.

[Master]

Tyson did try to fight Douglas but Duva and his team gave him a kings ransom (pun intended) and bought the title from Buster.

Tyson then was set for Holyfield.

Tyson beat good young undefeated fighters in Tucker and Briggs, blew away seasoned fighters like Williams and Tubbs, destroyed experienced boxers like Thomas and Holmes and created events when he fought Berbick (youngest heavyweight) and Spinks (undefeated lineal champion).

He was epic!

What came out from jail was a shell that was marketed, maneuvered and exploited fighter.

[SlimTrae]

I cant argue your points, Tyson cleaned out the division, not just bums but you are right he beat some good champs and contenders, what i claim:who he beat in the last 2/3rds of his career. NOT the last 3-4 fights.

[SlimTrae]

And the names he didnt fight as opposed to who he did fight. Not a coincidence.
Too many to ignore.
Too many.

[Master]

And the names he didnt fight as opposed to who he did fight. Not a coincidence.
Too many to ignore.
Too many.

Truthfully, if he did not go to jail, I think he may have beaten Holyfield but lost the return or lost to Bowe or Lewis because he was old and worn out.

A fire that is twice as bright lasts half as long - and boy he was hot!