If Cotto vs margarito never happened?

[TitoFan]

If Cotto-Margarito never happened?

MargaCheato's 15 minutes of fame would've been a hell of a lot shorter. His cheating ways were exposed against Mosley, who to add insult to injury had just knocked the living shit out of him.

As far as Cotto, the first fight did take a lot out of him. Getting beaten with plaster casts will have that effect on a man. Kudos to him for coming back and resurrecting his career even stronger. His adaptability has always been a strong point.

I do think his musical chairs with trainers would've caused him to lose against Pac regardless. As I remember, he had some clueless trainer in his corner for that fight.

Had Cotto-Margarito never happened, Cotto's peak would've been a bit longer.

[Beanflicker]

Yeah the damage that Cotto suffered physically and mentally in that fight took a lot out of him.

When people slagged Floyd for trying to bring up special stipulations, I always think of Cotto, who took two of his worst beatings at the hands of two alleged cheats.

[C.J.Rock]

All you guys dissing Antonio Margarito & calling him a cheat seem to have forgotten the laws of the land. A man is innocent until he is proved guilty I thought. Antonio Margarito was banned from boxing due to a blatant lie from Nazim Richardson who claimed "BLOCKS" fell out of Margarito's wraps. Where are those blocks? No one else saw any blocks. The CSAC banned him without proof he'd done anything wrong. When the supposed loaded pads were tested they were deemed HARMLESS by the laboratory that conducted the tests.
If anyone cheated on that night it was Nazim Richardson for blatantly lying. Plus if you look at Mosely's performances against Mora & the way he gassed after 3 rounds against Floyd What made him the Unstoppable killer with boundless energy against Margarito?? In my opinion he was juiced to the gills. Now we all know he was caught using EPO steroids against Oscar If anyone should be accused its Mosesly not Margarito.
Cotto is a cry baby he blamed everyone else for his defeats. He took the rematch against Margarito only when he knew Margarito's eye was permanently damaged. Even then he couldn't beat Margarito legitimately He had to rely on a crooked NY doc to stop the fight in case he took a knee in surrender AGAIN!!!!!

[TitoFan]

Yeah... that damn crooked doctor. How dare he stop the fight before MargaCheato's eye came completely out of its socket? Disgraceful. My favorite moment, though... was when Cotto walked across the ring after the fight was over and stared down MargaCheato like the scumbag piece of rat excrement he is.

Since then.... where has MargaCheato's career gone? Where has Cotto's?
I rest my case.

[El Kabong]

The real question is what would Margarito be without loading the gloves? And if you take the sample of the fights where we know 100% for certain he didn't have loaded wraps he looks like a very average professional fighter, nothing special.

[C.J.Rock]

The real question is what would Margarito be without loading the gloves? And if you take the sample of the fights where we know 100% for certain he didn't have loaded wraps he looks like a very average professional fighter, nothing special.

Ask Manny Paquaio who was bedridden with damaged ribs after the Margarito fight if he punched hard .
Margarito NEVER loaded his gloves stop using that excuse

[C.J.Rock]

Yeah... that damn crooked doctor. How dare he stop the fight before MargaCheato's eye came completely out of its socket? Disgraceful. My favorite moment, though... was when Cotto walked across the ring after the fight was over and stared down MargaCheato like the scumbag piece of rat excrement he is.

Since then.... where has MargaCheato's career gone? Where has Cotto's?
I rest my case.

Cotto walked across the ring because he knew his crooked doc saved him. Cotto didn't push for a rematch until he saw Margarito's permanently damaged eye then he grew a set. He still couldn't put Margarito away even though he had only one good eye. He makes a career out of fighting cripples One legged Yuri Foreman Almost legless Sergio Martinez. Look at Margarito's damaged eye Did he quit!!! NO Cotto took a knee in submission & QUIT!! He was heading to do it again till that crooked doc helped him out

[Ron Swanson]

Yeah... that damn crooked doctor. How dare he stop the fight before MargaCheato's eye came completely out of its socket? Disgraceful. My favorite moment, though... was when Cotto walked across the ring after the fight was over and stared down MargaCheato like the scumbag piece of rat excrement he is.

Since then.... where has MargaCheato's career gone? Where has Cotto's?
I rest my case.

Cotto walked across the ring because he knew his crooked doc saved him. Cotto didn't push for a rematch until he saw Margarito's permanently damaged eye then he grew a set. He still couldn't put Margarito away even though he had only one good eye. He makes a career out of fighting cripples One legged Yuri Foreman Almost legless Sergio Martinez. Look at Margarito's damaged eye Did he quit!!! NO Cotto took a knee in submission & QUIT!! He was heading to do it again till that crooked doc helped him out

It's really sad when a person can't face reality. I have no pity for that scumbag Margie but I have so much pity for his fans.

[C.J.Rock]

Yeah... that damn crooked doctor. How dare he stop the fight before MargaCheato's eye came completely out of its socket? Disgraceful. My favorite moment, though... was when Cotto walked across the ring after the fight was over and stared down MargaCheato like the scumbag piece of rat excrement he is.

Since then.... where has MargaCheato's career gone? Where has Cotto's?
I rest my case.

Cotto walked across the ring because he knew his crooked doc saved him. Cotto didn't push for a rematch until he saw Margarito's permanently damaged eye then he grew a set. He still couldn't put Margarito away even though he had only one good eye. He makes a career out of fighting cripples One legged Yuri Foreman Almost legless Sergio Martinez. Look at Margarito's damaged eye Did he quit!!! NO Cotto took a knee in submission & QUIT!! He was heading to do it again till that crooked doc helped him out

It's really sad when a person can't face reality. I have no pity for that scumbag Margie but I have so much pity for his fans.

Actually Ron its people like you I feel sorry for. Its you cannot face reality. All you can do is try to diss Antonio Margargarito purely because he made your idol Miguel Cotto take a knee and QUIT!!!!!!!!!! He legitimately beat the fight out of Cotto. Cotto tried to take advantage of Margarito knowing he had a permanently damaged eye. Watch the fight again & see how Cotto targeted it also illegally lacing, rubbing the inside of his glove, over it several times. Still couldn't get Margarito to quit like he did could he.
Also watch the doctors faux pas when interviewed after the fight. He said he stopped the fight because Margarito couldn't see out of that eye since round 2. Then realizing his faux pas he stammered " But it was getting worse" If he knew Margarito had only one good eye in round 2 why did he let him go 8 more rounds It wasn't till Margarito started to come on & was beating his chest at Cotto & Cotto was wilting that the doc stopped that fight.
All Ive ever asked for is PROOF Antonio Margarito ever loaded or tried to load his gloves. I've asked the CSAC Nazim Richardson & everyone else. No one has been able to provide one iota of proof. If the CSAC had anything at all Margarito would have been charged & permanently banned & rightly so. They had nothing & never did. A mans career & good name was taken from him by a BLATANT LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TitoFan]

Yeah... that damn crooked doctor. How dare he stop the fight before MargaCheato's eye came completely out of its socket? Disgraceful. My favorite moment, though... was when Cotto walked across the ring after the fight was over and stared down MargaCheato like the scumbag piece of rat excrement he is.

Since then.... where has MargaCheato's career gone? Where has Cotto's?
I rest my case.

Cotto walked across the ring because he knew his crooked doc saved him. Cotto didn't push for a rematch until he saw Margarito's permanently damaged eye then he grew a set. He still couldn't put Margarito away even though he had only one good eye. He makes a career out of fighting cripples One legged Yuri Foreman Almost legless Sergio Martinez. Look at Margarito's damaged eye Did he quit!!! NO Cotto took a knee in submission & QUIT!! He was heading to do it again till that crooked doc helped him out

It's really sad when a person can't face reality. I have no pity for that scumbag Margie but I have so much pity for his fans.

No need to feel pity for scumbag Margie. He'll soon enough (if not already) be peddling the streets of Tijuana with his eye-patch telling anyone who will listen how he used to be somebody.

"I coulda been a contendah. I coulda been somebody instead of a bum... which is what I am."

Ala Marlon Brando....


His fans are another matter. They're even more blind than "One-Eye MargaCheato".
Fuck'em.

Besides....... their idol's spot on the Hall of Shame is secure.

[IamInuit]

We suppose ourselves to possess unqualified scientific knowledge of a thing, as opposed to knowing it in the accidental way in which the sophist knows, when we think that we know the cause on which the fact depends, as the cause of that fact and of no other, and, further, that the fact could not be other than it is.

Now, I suppose its possible that Margaresto only attempted to kill his opponent via plaster paws when he was caught pad handed against Shane. I also suppose its possible that he didn’t know his hands were filled with cement soaked pads that formed to his knuckles. I know I play the “I didn’t know” card at work because when you work in the public sector its at times easier to apologize then it is to ask for permission.

The problem I have with this notion is in its reasoning and that’s why I quoted Aristotle. If he was about to cheat against a worn out old Shane Mosley then its no giant leap of faith or deductive reasoning to presuppose that he had cheated against a young undefeated world beater in his prime and come to a factual conclusion that he did w/o him being caught. You don’t need the same preponderance of evidence as you do in a murder trial. In this case its the law of “common sense”

[erics44]

Cotto margarito 1 was probably my favourite fight that didn't involve an Englishman

[C.J.Rock]

We suppose ourselves to possess unqualified scientific knowledge of a thing, as opposed to knowing it in the accidental way in which the sophist knows, when we think that we know the cause on which the fact depends, as the cause of that fact and of no other, and, further, that the fact could not be other than it is.

Now, I suppose its possible that Margaresto only attempted to kill his opponent via plaster paws when he was caught pad handed against Shane. I also suppose its possible that he didn’t know his hands were filled with cement soaked pads that formed to his knuckles. I know I play the “I didn’t know” card at work because when you work in the public sector its at times easier to apologize then it is to ask for permission.

The problem I have with this notion is in its reasoning and that’s why I quoted Aristotle. If he was about to cheat against a worn out old Shane Mosley then its no giant leap of faith or deductive reasoning to presuppose that he had cheated against a young undefeated world beater in his prime and come to a factual conclusion that he did w/o him being caught. You don’t need the same preponderance of evidence as you do in a murder trial. In this case its the law of “common sense”

Your imagination is on a par with Nazim Richardson's He claimed BLOCKS fell out of Margarito's wraps ROFLMAO Now you claim his hands were filled with "cement soaked pads" ROFLMAO I'll just ask you, like asked Richardson, Where are the cement soaked pads & the blocks?? Richardson wouldn't answer he knew he'd been exposed as a liar. Will you answer the question WHere are they
All that was found in Margarito's wrap was a used pad & not a new one, at most a technical offense. The lab that tested it deemed it harmless although trace elements of sulpher & calcium wre discovered under a microscope. Yes Sulpher & calcium in much larger quantities are ingredients of plaster BUT are also ingredients of HUMAN SWEAT not to mention HAND CREAM
Antonio Margarito 's career & good name were tarnished by first of all a blatant lie from Nazim Richardson then conduct more in favor of the Keystone Kops by the CSAC completed the character assassination. Then to rub salt in the wounds I firmly believe Shane Mosely was juiced to the gills in that fight. Otherwise how do you explain his boundless energy & non stop punching. He didn't possess this skill in fights previous or after against Floyd where he gassed in 3 rounds. He had to be clean in that fight