Roy Jones Chin

[SlimTrae]

Well I had hoped for 1 of 3 things for Roy's career when he went to heavyweight

1. Retire after fighting Ruiz

2. Defend the title vs heavyweights more his own size: Byrd, Toney, Jirov, Tyson, Holyfield etc

3. Drop to cruiserweight which would only be in name only as he was never truly a heavyweight and have some fights without getting weight drained.

RJJ just never rebounded from making the mistake of allowing Antonio Tarver to goad him into that first fight (a fight Roy STILL won). I think at cruiserweight he could have lasted a while longer and there were some decent fights available for him at heavyweight too

I remember RJJ eventually downplaying a fight with Holy because he knew some would claim Evander was washed up.

But as you've stated he had some options..Good ones..including retire after Ruiz.
Hurts to see him fighting on, out of the spotlight with little to no reflexes he once had in abundance.

[J_Undisputed]

Well I had hoped for 1 of 3 things for Roy's career when he went to heavyweight

1. Retire after fighting Ruiz

2. Defend the title vs heavyweights more his own size: Byrd, Toney, Jirov, Tyson, Holyfield etc

3. Drop to cruiserweight which would only be in name only as he was never truly a heavyweight and have some fights without getting weight drained.

RJJ just never rebounded from making the mistake of allowing Antonio Tarver to goad him into that first fight (a fight Roy STILL won). I think at cruiserweight he could have lasted a while longer and there were some decent fights available for him at heavyweight too

I remember RJJ eventually downplaying a fight with Holy because he knew some would claim Evander was washed up.

But as you've stated he had some options..Good ones..including retire after Ruiz.
Hurts to see him fighting on, out of the spotlight with little to no reflexes he once had in abundance.

Hardest thing for me to see is how awkward he looks now. Trying to hold his hands up or out like he really doesnt know what to do with them but he knows in the back of his mind he cant trust is reflexes enough to drop them like he used to and fully relax. If he just stylistically overhauled, like mayweather did (started trying to fight out of the middle of the ring after he knew his legs were going ) , you'd just kind of understand he had to do what he had to do. Its less exciting. With Roy, he looks like he knows what could happen at any second if he gets caught in a bad spot, and he's trying to resolve physically what he's already come to terms with in his mind.

[SlimTrae]

Well I had hoped for 1 of 3 things for Roy's career when he went to heavyweight

1. Retire after fighting Ruiz

2. Defend the title vs heavyweights more his own size: Byrd, Toney, Jirov, Tyson, Holyfield etc

3. Drop to cruiserweight which would only be in name only as he was never truly a heavyweight and have some fights without getting weight drained.

RJJ just never rebounded from making the mistake of allowing Antonio Tarver to goad him into that first fight (a fight Roy STILL won). I think at cruiserweight he could have lasted a while longer and there were some decent fights available for him at heavyweight too

I remember RJJ eventually downplaying a fight with Holy because he knew some would claim Evander was washed up.

But as you've stated he had some options..Good ones..including retire after Ruiz.
Hurts to see him fighting on, out of the spotlight with little to no reflexes he once had in abundance.

Hardest thing for me to see is how awkward he looks now. Trying to hold his hands up or out like he really doesnt know what to do with them but he knows in the back of his mind he cant trust is reflexes enough to drop them like he used to and fully relax. If he just stylistically overhauled, like mayweather did (started trying to fight out of the middle of the ring after he knew his legs were going ) , you'd just kind of understand he had to do what he had to do. Its less exciting. With Roy, he looks like he knows what could happen at any second if he gets caught in a bad spot, and he's trying to resolve physically what he's already come to terms with in his mind.

I remember listening to Ray Robinson talking about his demise.

He said something to the effect that when he was young he would throw punches and create at that moment, but as he got older he found himself having to "think" his punches.

I interpeted with what you stated: Ray/Roy knows what could happen at any second if he gets caught in a bad spot, and he's trying to resolve physically what he's already come to terms with in his mind----