Islamic extremist attack in Nigeria named the ‘deadliest massacre’ in history

[Gandalf]

Dieudonne or whoever oh God is he unfunny! Miles, you'd love him!

I've no idea who he is really, but came across the story in my media trawl. He seems to have a long history, but if inciting others is your game, then it is a similar field to the Charlie guys. The French seem to have double standards and don't like freedom of speech so much when it comes to Jewishness.

[AdamGB]

Prosecuting someone is a liiiiitle different to shooting them.

[smashup]

Not sure if it's true but my boss was telling me that our Government is trying to ban Instant Message apps like I-Chat and Whatsapp.

David Cameron in 'cloud cuckoo land' over encrypted messaging apps ban | Technology | The Guardian

[brocktonblockbust]

Prosecuting someone is a liiiiitle different to shooting them.

True AdamGB, and I thought the same thing myself, look at the different reactions: in one case wholesale slaughter of innocents, and in the other a mere prosecution. It is clear who is more civilized.

But I agree with Miles that what C hebdo did was "freedom of speech" targeting Muslims' Holy Prophet Muhammad (as hateful and inciteful and bigoted as it was) but if the same "free speech" as hateful and inciteful and bigoted were made about Jews, it would suddenly be "anti-semiitsm".

HUGE double standard there.

[Gandalf]

That's exactly what I was trying to say. Thanks for articulating it far more clearly than I did.

[ryanman]

Miles, just wondering how you frame the rise of Boko Haram?
They have no anti-west agenda.

I think it shows that the issue of Islamic extremism is more nuanced than just 'blowback'.

[AdamGB]

There's a fundamental difference. Jews are an ethnic group, Islam is an ideology.

You can question and challenge ideology, how can and why would you do the same to a race?

[brocktonblockbust]

[QUOTE=AdamGB;1296680]There's a fundamental difference. Jews are an ethnic group, Islam is an ideology.

You can question and challenge ideology, how can and why would you do the same to a race?[/QUOTE

Good point there. But also, those cartoons could be interpreted as slander against Arabs, though Muslims come from countless ethnicities (Persian, turk, Indonesian.....)

[SlimTrae]

There's a fundamental difference. Jews are an ethnic group, Islam is an ideology.

You can question and challenge ideology, how can and why would you do the same to a race?

Interesting, I thought a Jew was a person who practices Judaism : or: יְהוּדָה
Or ...Yehudah pronounced Ya-hoodah or Lehodot literally meaning "to thank"
Yiddish then translate it as "yada" meaning to praise As in what a Jewish convert, practicing Jew does. As I've never heard of a practicing Chinese or practicing Mexican.

Does the word originate from a man named Judah? Son of Jacob. Meaning-- Jacob couldn't have been a Jew, for he had yet to skeet JUdah out his nut-sack into existence.

Before then? I thought they were Israelites, which comes from the name Jacob (a man) whose name is changed to Israel in Gen 32: he wrestles with an angel of the lord, got his ass whooped till daylight-his hip thrown out of the socket.
So Judah's daddy & daddy's daddy...Abraham (Abram) couldn't have been a Jew nor an Israelite
Abram is his name, right? Who is called the Father of the Hebrews.

Conclusion: Some say "Hebrew" is associated with Abram's grandpappy Eber-
A name applied to a foreigner (Genesis 39:14,17; 41:12, etc.), -Since Abram left his home of Ur & was told to go to Egypt, he would have been like a Mexican in America: An illegal immigrant.

The changing of his name to Abraham encases Cushite words or Ethiopian 4 word(s) Ab-ba-ra-ham
Ra is the God of Egypt & Ham is supposedly the first black man, "Ab" like "aborigines" or from the beginning and "Ba" a word meaning soul in Cushitic.. hence he is not called Ab-ba-Ya-Shem, for the God "Yah" whose chosen people from the descendant Shem...totally the opposite-Ab-ba-ra-ham.

Myself: I take it to come from the Hebrew word 'Abhar , "To pass over," a "sojourner" or "passer" into a foreign land which the Bible says Abram does- "settles in Egypt." aka (mizriam) who is a son of Ham, not Shem.

The Jewish faith I thought gets its origin from Abraham & the law through Moses --- the very laws Muslims adhere to from: no pork eating to choppin' mofo's heads off for the slightest of things.

And the people today, clearly call themselves names that doesn't denote Islam such as Hezbollah, Al Queada, ISIS, Dawa, Al-Sunnar. These people should be called that and not radical Islamists or extremist IMO...anymore than a Jew who wants to practice Tanakh (Old Testament) would then be called radical Jews. But this is just my opinion...

[Gandalf]

Miles, just wondering how you frame the rise of Boko Haram?
They have no anti-west agenda.

I think it shows that the issue of Islamic extremism is more nuanced than just 'blowback'.

In all honesty, I am not totally clued up on Boko Haram. I get so focused on Western politics and our obvious impact in the Middle East, that the group has swept over my radar somewhat. The fact that it isn't a Western attack resulting in retaliation suggests this group is violent, but for whatever reason I could not say. I don't know the region or the recent history. Without that I cannot make any real evaluation. Bit boring, but just being honest with you old chap.

[El Kabong]

Thanks for articulating it far more clearly than I did.

Isn't communicating in English supposed to be your forte miles?

Anywho, I don't agree with the French arresting Diuedonne because he's using free speech as well....but God help him if there was EVER a law against being an unfunny comedian. He should change his name Diuedonne more like Douchey-Don .....

[Gandalf]

Lyle, people forget that my posting is not intellectual, but merely an exercise of habit. You teach pedagogic grammar and you are meant to permanently have those grammatical and lexical forms on fire. Can a God not take a shit occasionally?