Islamic extremist attack in Nigeria named the ‘deadliest massacre’ in history

[SlimTrae]

The newsmedia did NOT refer to Tim McVeigh as the Unabomber that was Ted Kaczynski who sent mail bombs to Universities hence the moniker "Una-Bomber". Tim McVeigh was called a "right wing extremist" and attempts were made to place the blame of the Oklahoma City Bombing on Rush Limbaugh's radio show oddly enough.


If we want to be specific about Islam in regards to terrorism we must understand the sectarian nature of Islam. Much like Christianity is not 1 sect anymore Islam too has branches but instead of Catholic, Methodist, Baptist, Presbyterian Islam is broken up into ethnic groups which practice the religion separately: Shiites are Persians and Sunnis are Arabs, then you have the Kurds who are neither, and then you have subgroups like the Pashtuns. It's all very complex and convoluted. But here's how I break it down: The Islamic State, Al Qaeda are Sunnis...so we've got a bit of Sunni issue here

Thanks for the correction of Ted over Tim...

Ted-Tim :The name shouldn't deter from the idea that the one who did it, was dis-associated with a religion or groups, causing media watchers to conclude: He did it not in concert- but alone.
Yet, I stand corrected on Ted, not Tim.

And you also make a claim (Sunni vs Shia) issue, to which the media doesn't see in terms of specifics, so generalism takes over.

If the media would have worded like you, did, I would me more in agreement. It is a sectarian issue.
IMO, you nailed it on the head.

[El Kabong]

Well it's still not a simple issue, take a look at Syria for example, they are in a Civil War and here are who is fighting


THE GOVERNMENT Bashir al-Assad, Iran, Hezbollah, Ba'ath Brigades, al-Abbas, Asa'ib Ahl al-Haq, Jayash al-Muwahhideen, Syrian Resistence, Arab Nationalist Guard, Popular Front For The Liberation of Palestine. With arms provided by: Russia, North Korea(possibly China)

THE OPPOSITION(yeah, that's how fucking organized they are ) : Islamic Front, Free Syrian Army, Al-Nusra Front, Syrian Revolutionary Command Council, Jabhat Ansar al-Deen, Muhajirin wa-Ansar Alliance. With arms provided by: USA, France, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Libya

THE ISLAMIC STATE: ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda

THE KURDS & INTELLECTUALS: Kurdistan, People's Protection Units, Liwa' Jabhat al-'Akrad, Peshmerga, and the Kurdistan Workers Party. Arms provided by: USA, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Jordan, Bahrain, The UAE, and Morocco .


So things are certainly NOT as binary as wars have been in the past.


Also in regards to Ted and Tim, Tim McVeigh WAS big into religion and anti abortion and all that stuff and he DID convert to Roman Catholicism but the main crux of his beef with the United States government was what the FBI and ATF did at Waco as well as Ruby Ridge. Ted Kaczynski was somewhat of a Luddite to an extent. Not in that he was religious, but he just hated technology and went waaaaaay off the deep end with the whole save the Earth kind of thing.

[SlimTrae]

Well it's still not a simple issue, take a look at Syria for example, they are in a Civil War and here are who is fighting

I agree, rarely are these simplistic issues: They hate freedom so they kill.


THE GOVERNMENT Bashir al-Assad, Iran, Hezbollah, Ba'ath Brigades, al-Abbas, Asa'ib Ahl al-Haq, Jayash al-Muwahhideen, Syrian Resistence, Arab Nationalist Guard, Popular Front For The Liberation of Palestine. With arms provided by: Russia, North Korea(possibly China)

As I have mentioned in posts here, Hezbollah, Dawa, Al-Sunnar to name a few show that it goes beyond a Koran or religion and into political factions, to sectarian. Then add on those who supply weapons as you stated. The media filters it and we come out with: Us versus Them, the end.

THE OPPOSITION(yeah, that's how fucking organized they are ) : Islamic Front, Free Syrian Army, Al-Nusra Front, Syrian Revolutionary Command Council, Jabhat Ansar al-Deen, Muhajirin wa-Ansar Alliance. With arms provided by: USA, France, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Libya

THE ISLAMIC STATE: ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda
Created with the help of those who speak English, not just Arabic

THE KURDS & INTELLECTUALS: Kurdistan, People's Protection Units, Liwa' Jabhat al-'Akrad, Peshmerga, and the Kurdistan Workers Party. Arms provided by: USA, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Jordan, Bahrain, The UAE, and Morocco .


So things are certainly NOT as binary as wars have been in the past.

Agreed, if we had cordoned off Osama when he was in the Sudan we could have limited some of his followers movements. But I guess we weren't interventionists back then and now the sects have grown like legs on a centipede.

Also in regards to Ted and Tim, Tim McVeigh WAS big into religion and anti abortion and all that stuff and he DID convert to Roman Catholicism but the main crux of his beef with the United States government was what the FBI and ATF did at Waco as well as Ruby Ridge. Ted Kaczynski was somewhat of a Luddite to an extent. Not in that he was religious, but he just hated technology and went waaaaaay off the deep end with the whole save the Earth kind of thing.

Good class on the Ted & Tim.