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[walrus]

Son of a notch. Seriously, what if they pull over someone and the passenger has Parkinson's and keeps twitching around and can't follow directions. What if a passenger is deaf and is reaching for his id or something. Are they justified shootings. I understand the cop is fearful for his life and not following directions from a police officer is something I wouldn't do but to shoot someone for not following directions seems extreme. If they continue to consider every police shooting of an unarmed suspect justified it is giving cops carte Blanche, I'm not necessarily talking about just these two examples but in general it seems most cases of police shooting unarmed suspects are justified

[greynotsoold]

In the Billings shooting, the video apparently goes on to show the cop break down crying and hyperventilating. He said he thought the guy had a gun down by his left leg. The same officer had killed somebody else a year or so previous. In that case the guy pointed what turned out to be a pellet gun at the cop.

[walrus]

In the Billings shooting, the video apparently goes on to show the cop break down crying and hyperventilating. He said he thought the guy had a gun down by his left leg. The same officer had killed somebody else a year or so previous. In that case the guy pointed what turned out to be a pellet gun at the cop.

well, the pellet gun incident I can see. Not that I'm for cops shooting anyone but if you have a weapon pointed at you if you take too long to determine its type you could be dead. Cases where kids pointed toy guns at kids are tragic all around. I don't have the answers but these cops should be held accountable in more of these cases to keep them on the reigns.

[Beanflicker]

[QUOTE=walrus;1298649]

I don't have the answers

I do: have the media and figure heads (including the president and the mayor of New York) spend less energy peddling anti-police rhetoric about the police being a bunch of crazy, racist gun slingers, and use that energy to educate citizens on the correct way to deal with police.

Know your rights, be polite, comply with what the officers tell you. It's that simple. You don't get to make your own rules when a cop has stopped your or is arresting you. You don't get to decide if you're going to be arrested or not. If you're being unfairly treated by the police, comply and then sue and get a nice fat settlement from the city afterwards. Nobody has ever argued their way out of an arrest, and nobody has ever made their situation better by resisting or disobeying orders. Cops have a dangerous, shitty job and it's become even more dangerous and shitty for them over the last year with all the negative press they got. Make it easy on them, make it easy on yourself.

That's the answer. Problem is it's not the answer most people want.

[greynotsoold]

[QUOTE=Beanflicker;1298667]

I don't have the answers

I do: have the media and figure heads (including the president and the mayor of New York) spend less energy peddling anti-police rhetoric about the police being a bunch of crazy, racist gun slingers, and use that energy to educate citizens on the correct way to deal with police.

Know your rights, be polite, comply with what the officers tell you. It's that simple. You don't get to make your own rules when a cop has stopped your or is arresting you. You don't get to decide if you're going to be arrested or not. If you're being unfairly treated by the police, comply and then sue and get a nice fat settlement from the city afterwards. Nobody has ever argued their way out of an arrest, and nobody has ever made their situation better by resisting or disobeying orders. Cops have a dangerous, shitty job and it's become even more dangerous and shitty for them over the last year with all the negative press they got. Make it easy on them, make it easy on yourself.

That's the answer. Problem is it's not the answer most people want.

I didn't say that.

[Beanflicker]

[QUOTE=greynotsoold;1298672]

I don't have the answers

I do: have the media and figure heads (including the president and the mayor of New York) spend less energy peddling anti-police rhetoric about the police being a bunch of crazy, racist gun slingers, and use that energy to educate citizens on the correct way to deal with police.

Know your rights, be polite, comply with what the officers tell you. It's that simple. You don't get to make your own rules when a cop has stopped your or is arresting you. You don't get to decide if you're going to be arrested or not. If you're being unfairly treated by the police, comply and then sue and get a nice fat settlement from the city afterwards. Nobody has ever argued their way out of an arrest, and nobody has ever made their situation better by resisting or disobeying orders. Cops have a dangerous, shitty job and it's become even more dangerous and shitty for them over the last year with all the negative press they got. Make it easy on them, make it easy on yourself.

That's the answer. Problem is it's not the answer most people want.

I didn't say that.

Don't make it about you, man. It's about the kids!