reason why there are no more Superstars

[SlimTrae]

there used to be super stars that we all could admire
there used to be super stars that were always on fire
now there is only mediocrity
Now there is only average-ness
and settling for less oh what a mess

They use to sizzle like bacon in a pan.
Now they fizzle like that cheap ass candy called pop rocks in ya mouth & hand.

[El Kabong]

Well there's a few reasons...boxing is less followable today, you have to seek it out instead of it just being there on a Friday/Saturday night or Tuesday/Thursday when USA was showing it. Also there are a lot of pros protecting their 0's instead of fighting a live body and the other guys, the guys who have a few losses here and there, they are just completely written off as good quality boxers.


Basically it has to do with boxing turning itself into a fringe sport because no other sport made boxing worse, boxing screwed boxing and it'll have to unscrew itself for us to have it back completely.

[SlimTrae]

Internet is easy access and yet boxing can't even use (that) to its advantage.

[ross]

Was going to say they need to have a rivalry to be a superstar but look at Tyson. To a small extent he had Mitch Green I spose. He was pure excitement though.

Look at the recent Saunders v Eubank fight, rivalries sell and make you a bigger name.

You need a personality and you need a rival.

[Beanflicker]

MMA has taken boxing's thunder.

[SlimTrae]

MMA has taken boxing's thunder.

Packed arenas every time out.

[Master]

MMA has taken boxing's thunder.

Packed arenas every time out.

They have packed arena at WWE does not mean it is any good, probably free tickets.

[J_Undisputed]

Sad as it sounds. The lack of superstars has to do with the condition of the stage. Boxing used to require, skills, intent, passion and drive. The sport as a whole has become a shell of its former self. Its too easy to get into the sport now and get out with a pocket full of money regardless of the performance you give.

We used to have fighters, now we have athletes that are volume punchers. We used to have davids that sought out goliaths and catapulted themselves to the top by upsetting them, now we have fighters waiting for other fighters to get old so they can fight them in that small window where youth trumps reflexes and stamina but everyone still reveres the old guys name.

The fans are so starved for throwbacks that we accept almost anyone in hopes that they will excite us and revive the sport. Gym rats are not enough, Tough men are not enough and scientists are not enough. There used to be a spirit there. Warriors that were in it for the reckoning and accepted nothing short of conquering. Those guys have been replaced by half A$$ers who think that since the NBA and NFL is showering players with huge contracts, that they should be able to self promote and then walk into the ring and make millions for a nights work. This new breed of boxer (technical term) also believes that being a giant, banger, volume puncher with no accuracy, or a fleet footed pitty patter should be enough as long as you have a way to make yourself look interesting. There are so good fighters now that stand out and are still looking to be complete fighters. Golovkin... Kovalev... Lee... Walters... porters show interest in picking up the pieces, among others....

If you want a reason. Start with money. Not saying fighters were better when they were poor and fighting long enough to get brain damage... but there are a lot of boxers with an inflated designer record, talking money first and glory second. The artistry is gone from a good percentage of the fighters and fights now. If you look at the quotes thread we have going on, you get a sense of what some of the fighters were as people and as warriors. Sit in on an interview or press conference now and you hear..

"I don't know you, i'll have to discuss things with my manager al haymon."
"I'll fight (insert name) if the moneys right... "
"I only want the big fights..."
"Im the A-side... you're the B-side"

plus:
-Fighters shamelessly relinquishing belts to avoid unifications...
-Fighters using catch weights.
-Fighters suggesting that paying a fine should take the place of a clean test so they don't lose their purse for being roided up

[erics44]

MMA has taken boxing's thunder.

Packed arenas every time out.

Has it fuck, who watches MMA?

couple of mongs down the pub

MMA is shit, its like a really shit boxing fight ever time

[Primo Carnera]

MMA has taken boxing's thunder.

Packed arenas every time out.

Has it fuck, who watches MMA?

couple of mongs down the pub

MMA is shit, its like a really shit boxing fight ever time

Got to agree with that.

[SlimTrae]

MMA has taken boxing's thunder.

Packed arenas every time out.

Has it fuck, who watches MMA?

couple of mongs down the pub

MMA is shit, its like a really shit boxing fight ever time

#1. I said packed arenas. Watching it on t.v. & being there are two different things. Can you figure that one out? think for a second....I'll wait....
Okay.
#2. Your opinion on what you think about it- is about the same as mines. So...look @ my opinion. Oh, Fuck...I didn't give one did I?
#3. For you & anyone else who thinks the argument is MMA is replacing Boxing. No. Mines is simple: Boxing isn't doing what it use to, especially here in the states. Why else is this thread in existence?
Think about it for a second...I'll wait......
Here is one estimate- per MMA to sherdog:
For UFC:
13 pay-per-view in 2012 = approximately 5.7 million buys
16 pay-per-view-in 2011 = approximately 6.4 million.
On about 400,000- 438,000.
I don't have the recent year- but the year Floyd fought Cotto:

1. Boxing - May 5 - Floyd Mayweather vs. Miguel Cotto 1,500,000
2. Boxing - December 8 - Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez 1,150,000
3. UFC 148 - July 7 - Anderson Silva vs. Chael Sonnen 925,000
4. WWE WrestleMania - April 1 - The Rock vs. John Cena 715,000
5. UFC 145 - April 21 - Jon Jones vs. Rashad Evans 700,000
5. UFC 154 - November 17 - Georges St-Pierre vs. Carlos Condit 700,000
5. Boxing - June 9 - Manny Pacquiao vs. Timothy Bradley 700,000

Now the above is for those who kept re-writing my statement which dealt with gate/ticket sells, NOT PPV events.
Find boxers who sells thousands of seats & that's probably Wlad-over seas. Froch over seas.
Who sells thousands here? JCC jr? yeah if he's in Texas aka Texaco USA.
Hopkins can't Bradley Stivernne coming here can't. Ward only in his home city. Connecticut-where you @ Walrus? They do plenty of fights there, but are they 10thousand venue seats? Since Gatti when was the last time we had a sellout event at Atlantic city?
Pac or PBF fights here in Vegas, who here can afford a ticket? Not one of ya'll asses is getting a ticket outside the nosebleed seats.

MMA is selling out here & in Mexico
Sold-Out UFC 180: Velasquez vs. Werdum To Air in 400 Theaters Across the Nation | MMAWeekly.com
Velazquez sold out. Not a tiny ass 3,200 venue place either.

UFC 129 55k sold
UFC 129 Sold Out, Shatters Records With 55,000 Tickets | MMAWeekly.com

UFC 124: St-Pierre vs. Koscheck 2 23,152 fans.

The previous gate record for a UFC event was $5.4 million Dec. 30, 2006 at MGM aka PBF-ville

This link below shows that MMA generates the same ridiculous prices for top seats. SO once again I end with what I started with: Packed arenas every time out

UFC 167 high-dollar ticket sales means 20th Anniversary show is most 'in-demand' event in Zuffa's history - MMAmania.com