Scientific Fraud

[Andre]

In reality it really does not matter what the cause is.

YES! That is the crux of the argument!!!! If humans are responsible then that means that humans can manipulate the climate making it hotter or colder, ergo it's a fixable problem. If humans are NOT responsible for the changes then we're all on this ride together and regardless of what we do the climate will change, meaning there's absolutely NOTHING we can do to change it. It's one or the other it cannot be both. I believe that climate changes due to a lot of different reasons, but none of the factors include human activity....we're talking Milinkohovich cycles, orbital forcing, ocean currents, La Nina/El Nino cycles, volcanic activity, solar activity not whether or not you drive an suv.

Im with you fully. Its now a tax scam and a business model that reaps in dumb asses.
We would be better served to put the money towards the real issues that we have effects on; like ancient forest decimation at the costs of animal species and ocean floor raping for orange roughy etc that just ploughs up million year old cultures dragging massive cages over underwater mountains. Pollutions into dieing oceans etc.

[TitoFan]

ok.

So we are capable of hurting the planet.