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In reality it really does not matter what the cause is.
YES! That is the crux of the argument!!!! If humans are responsible then that means that humans can manipulate the climate making it hotter or colder, ergo it's a fixable problem. If humans are NOT responsible for the changes then we're all on this ride together and regardless of what we do the climate will change, meaning there's absolutely NOTHING we can do to change it. It's one or the other it cannot be both. I believe that climate changes due to a lot of different reasons, but none of the factors include human activity....we're talking Milinkohovich cycles, orbital forcing, ocean currents, La Nina/El Nino cycles, volcanic activity, solar activity not whether or not you drive an suv.
Wow. You really are clueless when it comes to logic, right? Your statement:

If humans are responsible then that means that humans can manipulate the climate making it hotter or colder, ergo it's a fixable problem.

A similar argument, in a different context. Let's set a scenario. Let's say for the sake of argument that we have an ice cube. We, as humans, can manipulate the climate relative to this ice cube, making it hotter or colder. Suppose we decide to make it hot. It melts and the resulting liquid evaporates, dispersing into the air.

Can you return the ice cube to its original state?

Of course not.

Similarly, your "ergo" sounds great, but is incorrect. Your logical fallacy is a non sequitur. Just because humans can affect the climate does in no way, shape, or form imply that we can undo what we have done.

Can you grow back a severed limb? Of course not. Your assertion is much like the rest of your arguments on this matter - entirely specious.

All you can do is post links to non-experts, or people with expert training in the field who have been shown to be incorrect by their peers. You have no understanding of the peer-review process and seemingly very little understanding of science in general, much less the level of expertise of the climate scientists who are telling you there is a problem.

Instead you posture, pose, and act as if your opinion on this subject has worth.

It doesn't.