Naseem Hamed v Floyd Mayweather

[erics44]

Floyd would want to upstage Barrera and slam Prince into the turnbuckle at every corner.

naz would have KOed barera prime for prime

Really?? I thought Naz was pretty close to his prime when he got humiliated by MAB.

see above

Yeah..... I see your point.

27 is pretty much an over-the-hill age for a fighter.

See above

[TitoFan]

Floyd would want to upstage Barrera and slam Prince into the turnbuckle at every corner.

naz would have KOed barera prime for prime

Really?? I thought Naz was pretty close to his prime when he got humiliated by MAB.

see above

Yeah..... I see your point.

27 is pretty much an over-the-hill age for a fighter.

See above

Compelling argument, as usual.
Nice chatting with you.

[TitoFan]

personality sways fans opinion in boxing more than any other sport

why people love floyd so much and yet dislike naz ill never know

Naz would win by KO him in my opinion

Yeah, cos Floyd's always looked chinny and loads of people have KO'd him in the past haven't they ?
I couldn't give two fucks for either of them as people, just about pure boxing ability.

floyds never been knocked out - what a fantastic analagy of the fight

how about this - In his prime Naz knocked everyone out

1 nil to me

uh, own goal I think. Floyd has been ko'd in 0% of his fights . Naz didn't knock everyone out (if I've told you once I've told you a million times, don't exaggerate. ) .Infact he had an 86% stoppage record , which is very impressive, but his record against "Elite" fighters is fought 1 lost 1 . Mentally, he lost his aura and He couldn't handle that so he had to retire.
Like I've said before, don't think that the Floyd back then was like the Floyd of today. Naz was a very strong , good albeit unorthodox fighter that made an absolute killing back in the day , which he deserves respect for. But do you honestly believe that Corkscrew right from his toes would've got anywhere near the chin of a guy as skilled as Floyd , bearing in mind Barrera dealt with it very comfortably?
so with the own goal, that's 2-0 to me.

bringing naz's loss to mab into a discussion is like bringing tysons loss to mcbride into a discussion

2 nil me

How do you work that out Einstein? they're totally different. Naz's loss to MAB was his first and only loss coming off a 35 fight winning streak and he was 27 years old.
Tyson was 39, had been beaten by Danny Williams in his Previous fight , had done time , drugs and all sorts of shit.
I suppose it makes sense in your World.
Don't let the facts deter you though , you just keep dredging out the same old horseshit.

Both fighters careers were over before the fight

Cummon maan, you'll look daft if you try and argue naz was prime against mab

Well... if Prince's career wasn't over before the fight, it was certainly over after the fight.
Barrera took his heart, then went on to fight 10 more years.

[Primo Carnera]

personality sways fans opinion in boxing more than any other sport

why people love floyd so much and yet dislike naz ill never know

Naz would win by KO him in my opinion

Yeah, cos Floyd's always looked chinny and loads of people have KO'd him in the past haven't they ?
I couldn't give two fucks for either of them as people, just about pure boxing ability.

floyds never been knocked out - what a fantastic analagy of the fight

how about this - In his prime Naz knocked everyone out

1 nil to me

uh, own goal I think. Floyd has been ko'd in 0% of his fights . Naz didn't knock everyone out (if I've told you once I've told you a million times, don't exaggerate. ) .Infact he had an 86% stoppage record , which is very impressive, but his record against "Elite" fighters is fought 1 lost 1 . Mentally, he lost his aura and He couldn't handle that so he had to retire.
Like I've said before, don't think that the Floyd back then was like the Floyd of today. Naz was a very strong , good albeit unorthodox fighter that made an absolute killing back in the day , which he deserves respect for. But do you honestly believe that Corkscrew right from his toes would've got anywhere near the chin of a guy as skilled as Floyd , bearing in mind Barrera dealt with it very comfortably?
so with the own goal, that's 2-0 to me.

bringing naz's loss to mab into a discussion is like bringing tysons loss to mcbride into a discussion

2 nil me

How do you work that out Einstein? they're totally different. Naz's loss to MAB was his first and only loss coming off a 35 fight winning streak and he was 27 years old.
Tyson was 39, had been beaten by Danny Williams in his Previous fight , had done time , drugs and all sorts of shit.
I suppose it makes sense in your World.
Don't let the facts deter you though , you just keep dredging out the same old horseshit.

Both fighters careers were over before the fight

Cummon maan, you'll look daft if you try and argue naz was prime against mab

It's funny how nobody thought Naz's career was over before the MAB fight? The only reason it was over was because MAB took his invincibility away. He'd reached his level and couldn't accept it.
And if it was over before the MAB fight! when exactly was Naz's Prime? Because as good a career as he had till then, nothing stacks up to what Floyd has done. Back then, Floyd was a different fighter to what he is now. He would've schooled Naz for a few rounds and very possibly took his heart and either stopped Naz or made him quit "no mas" style. And he would've done this to the Naz before the MAB fight, or any time you consider as Naz's prime.

[east end bob]

Who wins - prime for prime at featherweight.

Watching IamInuit thread where Naz fought Tom Johnson and forgot how quick, brutal puncher and southpaw he was.

All these qualities would give Floyd problems and they were wanting to fight one another at one stage. It would have been an excellent fight. I think Naz timing could possibly cause Floyd big problems and he may have even stopped him.

Naz at his best was stunning. I believe he would have stopped Floyd. The problem was which Naz would turn up for the fight. As much as I admired Naz, I predicted that Berrera would win. Naz was too interested in his hype and hairdo to prepare correctly for a serious fighter like Berrera. The demise of Naz was sad and denied fight fans a potential great.

[erics44]

Floyd would want to upstage Barrera and slam Prince into the turnbuckle at every corner.

naz would have KOed barera prime for prime

Really?? I thought Naz was pretty close to his prime when he got humiliated by MAB.

see above

Yeah..... I see your point.

27 is pretty much an over-the-hill age for a fighter.

See above

Compelling argument, as usual.
Nice chatting with you.

absolutely solid argument you are right

Naz was absolutely no where near his best against barrera, hed stopped being a boxer long before that fight

that much is very clear, trying to base an argument on him losing to mayweather prime for prime because he lost to barrera that night is a bit daft

Just like saying tyson would have lost to ali prime for prime because tyson lost to mcbride

[erics44]

personality sways fans opinion in boxing more than any other sport

why people love floyd so much and yet dislike naz ill never know

Naz would win by KO him in my opinion

Yeah, cos Floyd's always looked chinny and loads of people have KO'd him in the past haven't they ?
I couldn't give two fucks for either of them as people, just about pure boxing ability.

floyds never been knocked out - what a fantastic analagy of the fight

how about this - In his prime Naz knocked everyone out

1 nil to me

uh, own goal I think. Floyd has been ko'd in 0% of his fights . Naz didn't knock everyone out (if I've told you once I've told you a million times, don't exaggerate. ) .Infact he had an 86% stoppage record , which is very impressive, but his record against "Elite" fighters is fought 1 lost 1 . Mentally, he lost his aura and He couldn't handle that so he had to retire.
Like I've said before, don't think that the Floyd back then was like the Floyd of today. Naz was a very strong , good albeit unorthodox fighter that made an absolute killing back in the day , which he deserves respect for. But do you honestly believe that Corkscrew right from his toes would've got anywhere near the chin of a guy as skilled as Floyd , bearing in mind Barrera dealt with it very comfortably?
so with the own goal, that's 2-0 to me.

bringing naz's loss to mab into a discussion is like bringing tysons loss to mcbride into a discussion

2 nil me

How do you work that out Einstein? they're totally different. Naz's loss to MAB was his first and only loss coming off a 35 fight winning streak and he was 27 years old.
Tyson was 39, had been beaten by Danny Williams in his Previous fight , had done time , drugs and all sorts of shit.
I suppose it makes sense in your World.
Don't let the facts deter you though , you just keep dredging out the same old horseshit.

Both fighters careers were over before the fight

Cummon maan, you'll look daft if you try and argue naz was prime against mab

It's funny how nobody thought Naz's career was over before the MAB fight? The only reason it was over was because MAB took his invincibility away. He'd reached his level and couldn't accept it.
And if it was over before the MAB fight! when exactly was Naz's Prime? Because as good a career as he had till then, nothing stacks up to what Floyd has done. Back then, Floyd was a different fighter to what he is now. He would've schooled Naz for a few rounds and very possibly took his heart and either stopped Naz or made him quit "no mas" style. And he would've done this to the Naz before the MAB fight, or any time you consider as Naz's prime.

Brenden Ingle did

[Primo Carnera]

personality sways fans opinion in boxing more than any other sport

why people love floyd so much and yet dislike naz ill never know

Naz would win by KO him in my opinion

Yeah, cos Floyd's always looked chinny and loads of people have KO'd him in the past haven't they ?
I couldn't give two fucks for either of them as people, just about pure boxing ability.

floyds never been knocked out - what a fantastic analagy of the fight

how about this - In his prime Naz knocked everyone out

1 nil to me

uh, own goal I think. Floyd has been ko'd in 0% of his fights . Naz didn't knock everyone out (if I've told you once I've told you a million times, don't exaggerate. ) .Infact he had an 86% stoppage record , which is very impressive, but his record against "Elite" fighters is fought 1 lost 1 . Mentally, he lost his aura and He couldn't handle that so he had to retire.
Like I've said before, don't think that the Floyd back then was like the Floyd of today. Naz was a very strong , good albeit unorthodox fighter that made an absolute killing back in the day , which he deserves respect for. But do you honestly believe that Corkscrew right from his toes would've got anywhere near the chin of a guy as skilled as Floyd , bearing in mind Barrera dealt with it very comfortably?
so with the own goal, that's 2-0 to me.

bringing naz's loss to mab into a discussion is like bringing tysons loss to mcbride into a discussion

2 nil me

How do you work that out Einstein? they're totally different. Naz's loss to MAB was his first and only loss coming off a 35 fight winning streak and he was 27 years old.
Tyson was 39, had been beaten by Danny Williams in his Previous fight , had done time , drugs and all sorts of shit.
I suppose it makes sense in your World.
Don't let the facts deter you though , you just keep dredging out the same old horseshit.

Both fighters careers were over before the fight

Cummon maan, you'll look daft if you try and argue naz was prime against mab

It's funny how nobody thought Naz's career was over before the MAB fight? The only reason it was over was because MAB took his invincibility away. He'd reached his level and couldn't accept it.
And if it was over before the MAB fight! when exactly was Naz's Prime? Because as good a career as he had till then, nothing stacks up to what Floyd has done. Back then, Floyd was a different fighter to what he is now. He would've schooled Naz for a few rounds and very possibly took his heart and either stopped Naz or made him quit "no mas" style. And he would've done this to the Naz before the MAB fight, or any time you consider as Naz's prime.

Brenden Ingle did

Yeah , he did , and maybe he was right. But only cos Naz sacked him off.

[TitoFan]

Floyd would want to upstage Barrera and slam Prince into the turnbuckle at every corner.

naz would have KOed barera prime for prime

Really?? I thought Naz was pretty close to his prime when he got humiliated by MAB.

see above

Yeah..... I see your point.

27 is pretty much an over-the-hill age for a fighter.

See above

Compelling argument, as usual.
Nice chatting with you.

absolutely solid argument you are right

Naz was absolutely no where near his best against barrera, hed stopped being a boxer long before that fight

that much is very clear, trying to base an argument on him losing to mayweather prime for prime because he lost to barrera that night is a bit daft

Just like saying tyson would have lost to ali prime for prime because tyson lost to mcbride

Never mind Floyd.

Your claiming that:

1. Naz would've knocked out Barrera prime for prime, and
2. Naz was past his prime (at age 27) when he fought Barrera.....

Pretty much tells us everything we need to know about your boxing IQ.

[erics44]

Floyd would want to upstage Barrera and slam Prince into the turnbuckle at every corner.

naz would have KOed barera prime for prime

Really?? I thought Naz was pretty close to his prime when he got humiliated by MAB.

see above

Yeah..... I see your point.

27 is pretty much an over-the-hill age for a fighter.

See above

Compelling argument, as usual.
Nice chatting with you.

absolutely solid argument you are right

Naz was absolutely no where near his best against barrera, hed stopped being a boxer long before that fight

that much is very clear, trying to base an argument on him losing to mayweather prime for prime because he lost to barrera that night is a bit daft

Just like saying tyson would have lost to ali prime for prime because tyson lost to mcbride

Never mind Floyd.

Your claiming that:

1. Naz would've knocked out Barrera prime for prime, and
2. Naz was past his prime (at age 27) when he fought Barrera.....

Pretty much tells us everything we need to know about your boxing IQ.

ha brilliant, i know nothing about boxing, ha ah ah aaha ahahha, ha aha haha hahahahaha ha ha aahaha ha ha ha hahha haahhaa hahh

what an argument

going to tell me to go back to school or something next?

how about calling me a troll?

[TitoFan]

Floyd would want to upstage Barrera and slam Prince into the turnbuckle at every corner.

naz would have KOed barera prime for prime

Really?? I thought Naz was pretty close to his prime when he got humiliated by MAB.

see above

Yeah..... I see your point.

27 is pretty much an over-the-hill age for a fighter.

See above

Compelling argument, as usual.
Nice chatting with you.

absolutely solid argument you are right

Naz was absolutely no where near his best against barrera, hed stopped being a boxer long before that fight

that much is very clear, trying to base an argument on him losing to mayweather prime for prime because he lost to barrera that night is a bit daft

Just like saying tyson would have lost to ali prime for prime because tyson lost to mcbride

Never mind Floyd.

Your claiming that:

1. Naz would've knocked out Barrera prime for prime, and
2. Naz was past his prime (at age 27) when he fought Barrera.....

Pretty much tells us everything we need to know about your boxing IQ.

ha brilliant, i know nothing about boxing, ha ah ah aaha ahahha, ha aha haha hahahahaha ha ha aahaha ha ha ha hahha haahhaa hahh

what an argument

going to tell me to go back to school or something next?

how about calling me a troll?

Why punch a guy who's busy slamming his own head against the wall?

[erics44]

Floyd would want to upstage Barrera and slam Prince into the turnbuckle at every corner.

naz would have KOed barera prime for prime

Really?? I thought Naz was pretty close to his prime when he got humiliated by MAB.

see above

Yeah..... I see your point.

27 is pretty much an over-the-hill age for a fighter.

See above

Compelling argument, as usual.
Nice chatting with you.

absolutely solid argument you are right

Naz was absolutely no where near his best against barrera, hed stopped being a boxer long before that fight

that much is very clear, trying to base an argument on him losing to mayweather prime for prime because he lost to barrera that night is a bit daft

Just like saying tyson would have lost to ali prime for prime because tyson lost to mcbride

Never mind Floyd.

Your claiming that:

1. Naz would've knocked out Barrera prime for prime, and
2. Naz was past his prime (at age 27) when he fought Barrera.....

Pretty much tells us everything we need to know about your boxing IQ.

ha brilliant, i know nothing about boxing, ha ah ah aaha ahahha, ha aha haha hahahahaha ha ha aahaha ha ha ha hahha haahhaa hahh

what an argument

going to tell me to go back to school or something next?

how about calling me a troll?

Why punch a guy who's busy slamming his own head against the wall?

awe what? you clearly know nothing about boxing!

ha ah ahahahahha a ahha a

funny

[Master]

Naz dismantled fighters with ease but he lost his trainer, lacked discipline, relied too much on his power and fell in love with himself and gradually he was showing vulnerabilities in most of his fights before his loss to Barrera.

[Beanflicker]

Naz was bloody good in his day.

[TitoFan]

Naz was good, no doubt about it. Some here go a little overboard with the love, though. Claiming Naz was over the hill when he fought Barrera is laughable to the point of nausea. Furthermore claiming that Naz would've knocked out Barrera prime for prime shows more than borderline stupidity, blatantly ignoring that Naz was fully in his prime when he got embarrassed by Barrera. To complicate matters for Naz fans, the guy folds up his tent and calls it a career. That has got to piss fans off for sure.