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I normally agree with you but Chavez was not over rated.
Be a drag if we all agreed all the time. Although he had some tremendous outings I think its a classic case of an agreed upon assumption by many that he's the best Mexican fighter that ever lived and I just dont see it that way. Not even close. Again he has been in some great fights but this involves 135 and him being pitted against perhaps the greatest lightweight that ever lived.

Lets see other then;

Duran being a much better boxer
A much better puncher generally like selection
A dominant lightweight
With much better footwork
A much better jab
Much more power
Noticeably faster
Superior defense
Superior head movement
Only beaten once in about 65 fights at 135 and in a fight he was finishing strong in.

oh and Duran never needed a loss changed to a win or an obvious drubbing called a draw to preserve an already false 0.

Other then those facts that are self evident imo to anyone who has watched the two, yeah its an even matchup.
That is cold to bring up what happened after near the end of his career. Duran quit and that is the worst thing a fighter could ever do.
But I never said a thing about that and don't even begrudge him for it. I merely touched on the Miguel Ruiz fight and the stacked cards in the Whitaker fight. I will say that 135 would be his best shot because thats when Chavez was actually his best but that best would simply not be best enough, And for the record I could not stand Duran in his heyday but he was what he was, a freakin machine who had the unfortunate luck of boxing in the Ali era and was largely overshadowed. Personally I believe there are only a handful of pugilists that could beat him or be in it til the end. Just to be clear I think he beats Floyd and Oscar at that weight.