Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
You don't need to make an excuse when someone loses. Most people other than Floyd and a lot of his fans are not so hung up on the idea of retaining that 0. Plenty of people rate fighters with losses as all time greats. For many even if Floyd retires with no losses he still will not eclipse certain fighters with losses on their record.
I love carl froch who HAS losses but is he better than JC without any losses.

JC undefeated record meant everything to him and he is arguably one of the best super middles of all time.

Where are you going with this?
I am not going anywhere ? Even if Froch had never lost and Calzaghe had. I could still rate Calzaghe above him. Floyd seems obsessed by the idea, doesn't mean we have to be.