Quote Originally Posted by p4pking
Quote Originally Posted by bilbo
Hey wacko, good response man. I'm just wandering if the Peter win (albiet a robbery imo) has made you elavate Baldomir's chances?

Because I always had you down as a great boxer will beat a buncher/brawler every time kind of man.


If Toney had dominated Peter and won a landslide, would you think that Baldy had less chance against Floyd than you do now?

Don't see how the one fight pertains to the other, tbo.. Of course there's the naturally smaller and vastly more skilled opponent which Toney and PBF share... But PBF is younger than Baldomir and certainly won't come in out of shape... If he were to come into the fight with DD breasts and weighing 200 lbs Im not sure Id favour Floyd either.. But it's clear as day that if Toney HAD been in great shape he would have dominated PEter(at least imo).. So I don't see why the outcome of that fight should change anyones opinion on this one.
Yup I completely agree with you 100% My point is that Wacko thought that Sam Peter's size and strength advantages would play absolutely no part in his fight with Toney and that Toney would school him. That is despite the fact that Toney is 38 and out of shape and looked poor in his last outing against Rahman.

Now we come to the Mayweather Baldomir fight and Wacko thinks Baldomir's size and physical advantages will play a major part, even though Floyd is at the peak of his career, will weigh the same at the weigh in, and is always in top shape.

I'm not criticising Wacko for his picks, I'm merely asking the question, What do you see in Baldomir that will trouble Floyd and give him a hard fight that you didn't see in Sam Peter? From my perspective their advantages are the same, size and natural strength. But Peter had the additional advantages of youth and KO power, plus Toney had the disadvantages of being old and out of shape.

I hope I'm making myself clear here, it's not a criticisim of Wacko, just trying to understand his logic,

A young strong heavyweight brawler with KO power would be schooled by an old, out of shaper former middleweight

An old veteran fighter, strong and durable but without KO power would be a tough fight for a prime, in shape natural fighter.

That's all I'm saying, you would think logic would dictate that if you thought the first fight would be a clinic then this one should be even more so, and if you don't think that, then did the result of the first fight not going as you expected have any bearing on your decision to re-evaulate the second fight.

Hope that makes sense!