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    Default Re: Tyson Fury "Key to beating Wlad is fighting southpaw"

    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    I've always considered Tyson Fury the modern day Ali.

    Take Ali, make him 6'9" and 260lbs, paint him white, and you have a Tyson Fury, complete with all the trash talk, fast arm punches in combination and runnin around the ring like a lunatic, enjoying his height and often weight advantage over his opponents. Stylistically similar with the combinations also.

    Except this time the opponent isn't a giant lummox like George Foreman or Sonny Liston!

    It's a serious opponent.

    In the words of Howard Cosell... "I just don't think he can do it".
    Stop talking shit... His most serious opponent to date was a cruiserweight who would have weighed in as a heavyweight during Ali's era. Not one of Fury's opponents fits the archetype of today's super heavyweight at anything resembling an elite level.

    You seriously think Chisora compares favourably to George Foreman?! Hahaha...

    There we have it folks...

    Foreman - Lummox
    Chisora - serious opponent



    Without a doubt one of the top 3 stupidest things I have ever read on this site. This is what happens when you try to awkwardly shoehorn an insult about a fighter you dislike into an entirely unrelated discussion... Give an idiot enough rope and he will hang himself with it.

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    Default Re: Tyson Fury "Key to beating Wlad is fighting southpaw"

    I mean, it's not complete hog-wash.

    He'd have to fight pretty much one handed - occupy Wlad's left all night and stay way away from the right but although he has the dimensions, I don't really think he has the positional awareness and hard-lined tactical mind to do this against a top 10 all-time heavyweight great. No chance.
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    Default Re: Tyson Fury "Key to beating Wlad is fighting southpaw"

    Going into a fight against Wlad you have to pick your poison, which punch are you going to pay less attention to? If it's the jab then you're in for a long night of eating those, if it's the right cross or left hook then you're in for a short night unless you have one hell of a chin.

    To me and this is just me mind you, Tyson Fury seems to be not very different than Maruisz Wach. He's big, he's not super agile, he's an arm puncher, and he doesn't pay too much attention to defense probably because he's so dang big he's been able to get away with it.

    Fury 6'9, Wach 6'7 & 1/2. Fury 24 wins 18 KO's, Wach 29 wins 16 KO's, Fury 85" reach, Wach 82" reach, Fury stopped Hammer in 8, Wach stopped Hammer in 6.

    I think Fury is more of a showman, maybe a touch more fluid, he may also have a weaker chin based on the bombs Wlad landed on that Mac Tonite crescent moon shaped chin of Wach and seeing how Cunningham really caught Fury hard. But we'll just have to see, but I think they aren't far off each other.

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    Default Re: Tyson Fury "Key to beating Wlad is fighting southpaw"

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Going into a fight against Wlad you have to pick your poison, which punch are you going to pay less attention to? If it's the jab then you're in for a long night of eating those, if it's the right cross or left hook then you're in for a short night unless you have one hell of a chin.

    To me and this is just me mind you, Tyson Fury seems to be not very different than Maruisz Wach. He's big, he's not super agile, he's an arm puncher, and he doesn't pay too much attention to defense probably because he's so dang big he's been able to get away with it.

    Fury 6'9, Wach 6'7 & 1/2. Fury 24 wins 18 KO's, Wach 29 wins 16 KO's, Fury 85" reach, Wach 82" reach, Fury stopped Hammer in 8, Wach stopped Hammer in 6.

    I think Fury is more of a showman, maybe a touch more fluid, he may also have a weaker chin based on the bombs Wlad landed on that Mac Tonite crescent moon shaped chin of Wach and seeing how Cunningham really caught Fury hard. But we'll just have to see, but I think they aren't far off each other.
    Fury has the weaker chin by a mile bud. Wach took Wlads shots while Fury nearly got decapitated by HMS.

    1 or 2 left hooks/straight rights and the fights done.
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    Default Re: Tyson Fury "Key to beating Wlad is fighting southpaw"

    The difference is when Fury is focussed he will be the best mover and combination punher Wlad has faced for a long time. He will also be miles harder to hit than Wach or anyone else hes faced.

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    Default Re: Tyson Fury "Key to beating Wlad is fighting southpaw"

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    The difference is when Fury is focussed he will be the best mover and combination punher Wlad has faced for a long time. He will also be miles harder to hit than Wach or anyone else hes faced.

    He hits harder than Sanders and Rahman ?

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    Default Re: Tyson Fury "Key to beating Wlad is fighting southpaw"

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    The difference is when Fury is focussed he will be the best mover and combination punher Wlad has faced for a long time. He will also be miles harder to hit than Wach or anyone else hes faced.

    He hits harder than Sanders and Rahman ?
    No where in my post have I said that at all

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    Default Re: Tyson Fury "Key to beating Wlad is fighting southpaw"

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    I've always considered Tyson Fury the modern day Ali.

    Take Ali, make him 6'9" and 260lbs, paint him white, and you have a Tyson Fury, complete with all the trash talk, fast arm punches in combination and runnin around the ring like a lunatic, enjoying his height and often weight advantage over his opponents. Stylistically similar with the combinations also.

    Except this time the opponent isn't a giant lummox like George Foreman or Sonny Liston!

    It's a serious opponent.

    In the words of Howard Cosell... "I just don't think he can do it".
    Stop talking shit... His most serious opponent to date was a cruiserweight who would have weighed in as a heavyweight during Ali's era. Not one of Fury's opponents fits the archetype of today's super heavyweight at anything resembling an elite level.

    You seriously think Chisora compares favourably to George Foreman?! Hahaha...

    There we have it folks...

    Foreman - Lummox
    Chisora - serious opponent



    Without a doubt one of the top 3 stupidest things I have ever read on this site. This is what happens when you try to awkwardly shoehorn an insult about a fighter you dislike into an entirely unrelated discussion... Give an idiot enough rope and he will hang himself with it.
    I said that Wladimir is a serious opponent compared with Geroge Foreman...

    And in Chisora's defence, he is simply a much larger and stronger version of Joe Frazier.

    Except Fury did not LOSE to HIS Frazier.
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    Default Re: Tyson Fury "Key to beating Wlad is fighting southpaw"

    You're talking rubbish again. Chisora might have more weight on him than Frazier, but the size advantaged Fury enjoyed over Chisora completely eclipses any size advantage that Ali had... That's why Ali lost to 'HIS Chisora'

    Joe Frazier
    height: 5 foot 11
    reach: 73"
    Weight: 205

    Muhammad Ali
    height: 6 foot 3
    reach: 78"
    Weight: 215

    Height difference: 4"
    Reach difference: 5"
    Weight difference: 10lb

    Dereck Chisora
    Height: 6 foot 1
    Reach: 74"
    Weight: 241lb

    Tyson Fury
    Height: 6 foot 9
    Reach: 85"
    Weight: 265lb

    Height difference: 8"
    Reach difference: 11"
    Weight difference: 24lb


    Over twice the advantage... That's gargantuan...

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    Default Re: Tyson Fury "Key to beating Wlad is fighting southpaw"

    I just watched Tyson Fury vs Christian Hammer.... ridiculous, Tyson Fury may not even be a top 10 heavyweight based on that performance

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    Default Re: Tyson Fury "Key to beating Wlad is fighting southpaw"

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    I just watched Tyson Fury vs Christian Hammer.... ridiculous, Tyson Fury may not even be a top 10 heavyweight based on that performance

    Hmm bitter.

    I sense you need a saucer of milk

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    Default Re: Tyson Fury "Key to beating Wlad is fighting southpaw"

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    I just watched Tyson Fury vs Christian Hammer.... ridiculous, Tyson Fury may not even be a top 10 heavyweight based on that performance

    Hmm bitter.

    I sense you need a saucer of milk
    I've seen Fury fight Hammer and I've seen Mariusz Wach fight Hammer....much more impressed with Wach than Fury

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    Default Re: Tyson Fury "Key to beating Wlad is fighting southpaw"

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    I just watched Tyson Fury vs Christian Hammer.... ridiculous, Tyson Fury may not even be a top 10 heavyweight based on that performance

    Hmm bitter.

    I sense you need a saucer of milk
    I've seen Fury fight Hammer and I've seen Mariusz Wach fight Hammer....much more impressed with Wach than Fury
    Really!!!?

    Other than the ending Wach was getting beaten!

    Fury was in absolute control without even a full camp. You gotta take those Klitschko goggles off before Tyson slaps em off

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