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[AdamGB]

Right hand through the middle.

You can be a pedant over the specific type (in this case it was a short right hand, almost a hook... but unlike you I won't be a pedant over your naming of it as a straight) but the fact remains that the same vulnerability has seen Manny eat dozens of dozens of RIGHT HANDS...

Overhand, short, straight, cross... Doesn't matter the type, he's very open to the right hand down the middle and ALWAYS HAS BEEN.

[Primo Carnera]

Right hand through the middle.

You can be a pedant over the specific type (in this case it was a short right hand, almost a hook... but unlike you I won't be a pedant over your naming of it as a straight) but the fact remains that the same vulnerability has seen Manny eat dozens of dozens of RIGHT HANDS...

Overhand, short, straight, cross... Doesn't matter the type, he's very open to the right hand down the middle and ALWAYS HAS BEEN.

The reason I quoted the specific type was because YOU said that they were the same punch. if you had said that Pac leaves himself open to being caught by a right hand, I might agree.
My point was that the first knockdown happens to a lot of people, the second was so careless by Pac (much more so than normal) that it looked terrible. However, I don't see it happening again in a hurry.
at least I can safely say that I got this thread right as my opinion is pretty unpopular.

[Primo Carnera]

seeing as my last few got some attention, here's one I forgot.
The relationship between Frampton and McGuigan will end in tears!
As soon as Frampton sees that his career is the secondary priority behind McGuigan making as much money as he can for himself and his family.
I guarantee it will get messy!

[Bill Paxtom]

Cassius Clay

Stated that he wanted to become an Astronaut.

He did ask though, was he required to have a 'valid' Drivers License to drive a Rocket Ship.

When visiting NASA, Cassius looked inside the Apollo Capsule and asked;

"Where is the steering wheel."

True Story

[AdamGB]

Right hand through the middle.

You can be a pedant over the specific type (in this case it was a short right hand, almost a hook... but unlike you I won't be a pedant over your naming of it as a straight) but the fact remains that the same vulnerability has seen Manny eat dozens of dozens of RIGHT HANDS...

Overhand, short, straight, cross... Doesn't matter the type, he's very open to the right hand down the middle and ALWAYS HAS BEEN.

The reason I quoted the specific type was because YOU said that they were the same punch. if you had said that Pac leaves himself open to being caught by a right hand, I might agree.

I know, I already said you were being pedantic over something as trivial as the specific type of right hand and my phrasing instead of conceding the actual point.

Pac has left himself open to, walked onto and been baited into leaving gaps for dozens of right hands throughout his career. I'd hardly call it a 'moment of carelessness', if you keep making the same mistake over and over then one day you will pay for it.

Your bad habits only get worse when you're taken into deep water and that's what JMM did.

[AdamGB]

Should I also be a fellow pedant and point out that I didn't say EXACT same punch, or shall we agree that getting hung up on exact wording is moot?

[Primo Carnera]

You don't have to say EXACT for my benefit.

[AdamGB]

Really? I thought I had to spell things out to the letter for you to stop them going over your head, now you're telling me I don't actually have to be too precise? Which is it?

[Primo Carnera]

Really? I thought I had to spell things out to the letter for you to stop them going over your head, now you're telling me I don't actually have to be too precise? Which is it?

Like I said, you don't have to use exact , Same will do for me. Same means SAME, you don't have to emphasise it with EXACT.
So let's make it clear an overhead swinging Right is the SAME punch as a Straight Right? And with one , Manny was moving backwards, while the other, he walks straight onto it.
So does that mean an uppercut and a jab are the SAME punch as well.
After all, I'm led to believe that you're the Boxer so you tell me.

[J_Undisputed]

Right hand through the middle.

You can be a pedant over the specific type (in this case it was a short right hand, almost a hook... but unlike you I won't be a pedant over your naming of it as a straight) but the fact remains that the same vulnerability has seen Manny eat dozens of dozens of RIGHT HANDS...

Overhand, short, straight, cross... Doesn't matter the type, he's very open to the right hand down the middle and ALWAYS HAS BEEN.

Yup. That's why the lead right is the most common weapon against south paws. All those right handed shots you listed come from the same spot, no matter what the path. They're hidden behind the Orthodox fighters lead shoulder as he blades his body. Its already left the gate and is on its way to you by the time you pick it up as a southpaw because your lead shoulder is lined up with his. If he loops it or hooks it, it may buy you more time because you'll pick it up a tad earlier in the body language, than if its coming across his body. Marquez trained to throw that shot over and over again. He packed on the muscle too so it would do the most damage when it landed. Silver bullet, planned, practiced and executed.

[SlimTrae]

Don King put together the best overall fights cards.

Manny's 8 divisional champ status is purely political; How else does a dude win in 8 different classes weighing between 138-147 dating back to Morales fight one?

Prime Roberto Duran stops prime Pacqiuao & JMM @ LW.

Gerald McCellan would've beatan RJJ

[Kirkland Laing]

Corrales-Castillo was completely ruined by the ending. Corrales should have been disqualified for spitting his mouthpiece out to buy time when he was out on his feet. The wrong guy won.

[SlimTrae]

Corrales-Castillo was completely ruined by the ending. Corrales should have been disqualified for spitting his mouthpiece out to buy time when he was out on his feet. The wrong guy won.

Was there a rule put into place or something after that? The Corrales mouthpiece rule?

[walrus]

Bill Paxtom is right.

[Andre]

Hatton became under rated when he flattend out, but he never really aimed seriously past the pinnacle that was Kostya. You have to hand it to him,it was one of the longest visions that became a reality through hard work.
Him beating Vince Phillips was part of the psychology behind the taking down of Tszyu, outside of the ring.(A tactic the Champion Tszyu did with all his main opponents before,he would get into their heads somehow ever so subtlety) and would build a win around it. KT should of done the job on Vince but couldnt then wouldnt. Ricky also aimed to move on each ex opponent in a fuller way than Kostya did so he was always chiseling away at the mountain Kostya had built (Thats what got him the end result,his dream fight). Then the younger man beat the older one by playing his own ring game. That balanced out what happened to Chavez previously when facing the younger Tszyu the greatest at 140 ever.
I also recon this period (Tszyu's) was the most exiting in boxing ever. 140 was lit up, 135 was lit up 147 lit up, and Roy lit up the mid to light, while the Feather weights and the bantams were all having greater wars than any of the higher weights.