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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Right hand through the middle.

    You can be a pedant over the specific type (in this case it was a short right hand, almost a hook... but unlike you I won't be a pedant over your naming of it as a straight) but the fact remains that the same vulnerability has seen Manny eat dozens of dozens of RIGHT HANDS...

    Overhand, short, straight, cross... Doesn't matter the type, he's very open to the right hand down the middle and ALWAYS HAS BEEN.
    Yup. That's why the lead right is the most common weapon against south paws. All those right handed shots you listed come from the same spot, no matter what the path. They're hidden behind the Orthodox fighters lead shoulder as he blades his body. Its already left the gate and is on its way to you by the time you pick it up as a southpaw because your lead shoulder is lined up with his. If he loops it or hooks it, it may buy you more time because you'll pick it up a tad earlier in the body language, than if its coming across his body. Marquez trained to throw that shot over and over again. He packed on the muscle too so it would do the most damage when it landed. Silver bullet, planned, practiced and executed.
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    Don King put together the best overall fights cards.

    Manny's 8 divisional champ status is purely political; How else does a dude win in 8 different classes weighing between 138-147 dating back to Morales fight one?

    Prime Roberto Duran stops prime Pacqiuao & JMM @ LW.

    Gerald McCellan would've beatan RJJ

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    Corrales-Castillo was completely ruined by the ending. Corrales should have been disqualified for spitting his mouthpiece out to buy time when he was out on his feet. The wrong guy won.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Corrales-Castillo was completely ruined by the ending. Corrales should have been disqualified for spitting his mouthpiece out to buy time when he was out on his feet. The wrong guy won.
    Was there a rule put into place or something after that? The Corrales mouthpiece rule?

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    Bill Paxtom is right.

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    Hatton became under rated when he flattend out, but he never really aimed seriously past the pinnacle that was Kostya. You have to hand it to him,it was one of the longest visions that became a reality through hard work.
    Him beating Vince Phillips was part of the psychology behind the taking down of Tszyu, outside of the ring.(A tactic the Champion Tszyu did with all his main opponents before,he would get into their heads somehow ever so subtlety) and would build a win around it. KT should of done the job on Vince but couldnt then wouldnt. Ricky also aimed to move on each ex opponent in a fuller way than Kostya did so he was always chiseling away at the mountain Kostya had built (Thats what got him the end result,his dream fight). Then the younger man beat the older one by playing his own ring game. That balanced out what happened to Chavez previously when facing the younger Tszyu the greatest at 140 ever.
    I also recon this period (Tszyu's) was the most exiting in boxing ever. 140 was lit up, 135 was lit up 147 lit up, and Roy lit up the mid to light, while the Feather weights and the bantams were all having greater wars than any of the higher weights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    Hatton became under rated when he flattend out, but he never really aimed seriously past the pinnacle that was Kostya. You have to hand it to him,it was one of the longest visions that became a reality through hard work.
    Him beating Vince Phillips was part of the psychology behind the taking down of Tszyu, outside of the ring.(A tactic the Champion Tszyu did with all his main opponents before,he would get into their heads somehow ever so subtlety) and would build a win around it. KT should of done the job on Vince but couldnt then wouldnt. Ricky also aimed to move on each ex opponent in a fuller way than Kostya did so he was always chiseling away at the mountain Kostya had built (Thats what got him the end result,his dream fight). Then the younger man beat the older one by playing his own ring game. That balanced out what happened to Chavez previously when facing the younger Tszyu the greatest at 140 ever.
    I also recon this period (Tszyu's) was the most exiting in boxing ever. 140 was lit up, 135 was lit up 147 lit up, and Roy lit up the mid to light, while the Feather weights and the bantams were all having greater wars than any of the higher weights.
    I think my opinion of Hatton had always been unpopular I never saw him as the P4P superstar many did, with the help of the ref he was able to wrestle a rusty and past prime Tyszu into submission, he looked flat against a lot of fighters who a true p4p fighter really shouldn't have, got Castillo at the right time (but did land a beautiful body shot to stop him), his 147 title was gifted to him and he 'boxed' a stupid fight against Manny... Lunging straight forward with his hands down and his chin up.

    Don't get me wrong, solid career and he always gave his all. I just think he was overhyped and not the calibre most British fans want to believe. I just wish he'd taken his lifestyle a bit more seriously and continued work on his skills after he'd landed on the world stage instead of buying into his own hype of being this relentless raging bull.

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    Floyd should not be undefeated
    Cold Heart and a Weak Mind

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    Hatton became under rated when he flattend out, but he never really aimed seriously past the pinnacle that was Kostya. You have to hand it to him,it was one of the longest visions that became a reality through hard work.
    Him beating Vince Phillips was part of the psychology behind the taking down of Tszyu, outside of the ring.(A tactic the Champion Tszyu did with all his main opponents before,he would get into their heads somehow ever so subtlety) and would build a win around it. KT should of done the job on Vince but couldnt then wouldnt. Ricky also aimed to move on each ex opponent in a fuller way than Kostya did so he was always chiseling away at the mountain Kostya had built (Thats what got him the end result,his dream fight). Then the younger man beat the older one by playing his own ring game. That balanced out what happened to Chavez previously when facing the younger Tszyu the greatest at 140 ever.
    I also recon this period (Tszyu's) was the most exiting in boxing ever. 140 was lit up, 135 was lit up 147 lit up, and Roy lit up the mid to light, while the Feather weights and the bantams were all having greater wars than any of the higher weights.
    I think my opinion of Hatton had always been unpopular I never saw him as the P4P superstar many did, with the help of the ref he was able to wrestle a rusty and past prime Tyszu into submission, he looked flat against a lot of fighters who a true p4p fighter really shouldn't have, got Castillo at the right time (but did land a beautiful body shot to stop him), his 147 title was gifted to him and he 'boxed' a stupid fight against Manny... Lunging straight forward with his hands down and his chin up.

    Don't get me wrong, solid career and he always gave his all. I just think he was overhyped and not the calibre most British fans want to believe. I just wish he'd taken his lifestyle a bit more seriously and continued work on his skills after he'd landed on the world stage instead of buying into his own hype of being this relentless raging bull.
    Yeah my take on it is only unpopular out here in Oz cause they dont like loosing and go withthe old man thing where as Kostya himself doesnt buy into it.Hatton got hit so hard in that fight a few times,others would of caved but he was still set on the task.HAve to give him props for that one and the path there.
    To be honest Tszyu used to rough up fighters and throw them around and pull the odd old trick,Hatton beat him at his own game a rough one. You are right though the ref could of made it a better fight but in reality I dont think it would of ended any other way. Kostya was a real great went out the way he came in no excuses a warrior to the end.
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